Volta ao Algarve 2016, February 17 - 21

[Tonton]

Not a bad day in the office for Pinot .

Surprised by Contador . Martin did really great.

 

[pink_jersey]

I think AC was cooked because he stayed too much in wind...

 

[rm7]

Re:

People are reading too much out of these early performances. Contador is probably taking a different approach and I don't blame him. As for Uran the three times that he has been good at the Giro he has performed poorly previously in those years. So I was hoping for this as well.

Why would he take a different approach from the spring peak in march and then super peak at the Tour?

He's usually a lot better than this in his first race. Doesn't think he'll do a "super peak" for the Tour like Armstrong/Nibali.

 

[Escarabajo]

Re: Re:

People are reading too much out of these early performances. Contador is probably taking a different approach and I don't blame him. As for Uran the three times that he has been good at the Giro he has performed poorly previously in those years. So I was hoping for this as well.

Why would he take a different approach from the spring peak in march and then super peak at the Tour?

He's usually a lot better than this in his first race. Doesn't think he'll do a "super peak" for the Tour like Armstrong/Nibali.

Because he is older and he understand it.

 

[w52]

Well done Amaro Antunes!!! Amazing race for him top10 is brilliant for a guy who runs in a continental team

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

People are reading too much out of these early performances. Contador is probably taking a different approach and I don't blame him. As for Uran the three times that he has been good at the Giro he has performed poorly previously in those years. So I was hoping for this as well.

Why would he take a different approach from the spring peak in march and then super peak at the Tour?

He's usually a lot better than this in his first race. Doesn't think he'll do a "super peak" for the Tour like Armstrong/Nibali.

Im thinking the same, he has always been incredible good early on in the spring when he goes to the Tour. Why change that? Especially in 2014 in mind...

I think its a matter of 1) Contador not being super good at the moment and 2) he has spend too much energy early on. Im pretty sure he will top-5 on Malhao, but either way, not what Contador-fans have been hoping for.

 

[Taxus4a]

We will see later, but IMO most of these riders were afected by a crash

37 URÁN Rigoberto CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM (USA) 5:14:26.271
38 HERKOLTZ Silvio BORA-ARGON 18 (GER) 5:16:09.072
39 CANCELLARA Fabian TREK - SEGAFREDO (USA) 5:16:14.874
40 STUYVEN Jasper TREK - SEGAFREDO (USA) 5:16:14.928
41 FIGUEIREDO Frederico RADIO POPULAR - BOAVISTA (POR) 5:16:15.477
42 ROSA Diego ASTANA PRO TEAM (KAZ) 5:16:16.076
43 DEVENYNS Dries IAM CYCLING (SUI) 5:16:16.265
44 PUCCIO Salvatore TEAM SKY (GBR) 5:16:16.299
45 CAMPANAERTS Victor TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 5:16:51.471
46 BROECKX Stig LOTTO SOUDAL (BEL) 5:16:51.586
47 MOLINA Antonio CAJA RURAL-SEGUROS RGA (ESP) 5:16:51.776
48 REYNES Vicente IAM CYCLING (SUI) 5:16:51.777
49 FERNANDES Luís SPORTING/TAVIRA (POR) 5:16:51.982
50 LOZANO David TEAM NOVO NORDISK (USA) 5:16:52.009
51 BELDA David TEAM ROTH (SUI) 5:16:52.108
52 BENEDETTI Cesare BORA-ARGON 18 (GER) 5:16:52.582
53 ROJAS José Joaquín MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 5:16:52.610
54 EZQUERRA Jesús SPORTING/TAVIRA (POR) 5:16:52.881
55 CIESLIK Pawel VERVA ACTIVEJET PRO CYCLING TEAM (POL) 5:16:53.019
56 AMADOR Andrey MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 5:16:53.445
57 KANGERT Tanel ASTANA PRO TEAM (KAZ) 5:16:54.170
58 TAARAMAE Rein TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 5:16:54.447
59 MORABITO Steve FDJ (FRA) 5:16:54.728
60 KISERLOVSKI Robert TINKOFF (RUS) 5:16:54.830

We had the info of ome Astana and Movistar riders afected... I think Amador, Rojas and Kangert were afected.

 

[Arredondo]

Morabito and Taaramae should be have been afected by that crash. Steve was really good Down Under.

 

[HelloDolly]

I was wrong about G's form...he is looking very good again

However SKY illness list goes on as Lopez crashed

 

[JRanton]

Re:

I was wrong about G's form...he is looking very good again

However SKY illness list goes on as Lopez crashed

He is exactly the same as last year. Average at TDU and then good in Algarve. The lack of Lopez and Kwiatkowski could make things very difficult for him if he takes the lead tomorrow.

 

[Mr.White]

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At least i was right about Uran, i'll take it

Right about what?

 

[JRanton]

I don't trust the time gaps shown on the standings. We had the same thing yesterday and then it was corrected later.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Some of the Contador fans here are more entertaining than they intend to be. From weeks of babbling about AC's inevitable crushing of all before him, to immediate doom and gloom because he lost twenty seconds in a race that is both meaningless to a rider with his palmares and also his first of the season. Does supporting the man cause bipolar disorder?

 

[arvc40]

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Some of the Contador fans here are more entertaining than they intend to be. From weeks of babbling about AC's inevitable crushing of all before him, to immediate doom and gloom because he lost twenty seconds in a race that is both meaningless to a rider with his palmares and also his first of the season. Does supporting the man cause bipolar disorder?

Yes, well, 99% of people are thick

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Some of the Contador fans here are more entertaining than they intend to be. From weeks of babbling about AC's inevitable crushing of all before him, to immediate doom and gloom because he lost twenty seconds in a race that is both meaningless to a rider with his palmares and also his first of the season. Does supporting the man cause bipolar disorder?

Really I have no idea what you're talking about.
There are 3 types of fans:
Miburo type "OMG he'll crush everyone" "Lol he's so bad he'll be even worse than in 2013 "
Normal fan "Let's see what he can do" "Hmm not so good after all"
Me type "Really not sure what to expect but he looks good but I really don't know but maybe he will be great but he could be bad as well" "Oh he's really bad that is so disappointing , he's always strong in his first race so this is a really bad sign "

Edit: oh and there's a 4th type, the arvc4 type - "he'll be great" "he lost loads of time but he'll still be great and everyone who thinks otherwise is thick".

 

[roundabout]

I don't trust the time gaps shown on the standings. We had the same thing yesterday and then it was corrected later.

Those should be minor if the timing is correct

Pinot s.t as Machado

Saez and Benoot @ 13 seconds

Aru to Martin @ 15 seconds

Rest of the top 20 as per PCS

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

People are reading too much out of these early performances. Contador is probably taking a different approach and I don't blame him. As for Uran the three times that he has been good at the Giro he has performed poorly previously in those years. So I was hoping for this as well.

Just like in 2013 and 2015, just a different approach and he'll be great at the Tour anyway?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I think AC was cooked because he stayed too much in wind...

We can speculate as much as we want but there is only 1 fact: he was 20th and lost time to virtually all GC favorites and also to several riders he should always beat uphill

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re: Re:

Really I have no idea what you're talking about.
There are 3 types of fans:
Miburo type "OMG he'll crush everyone" "Lol he's so bad he'll be even worse than in 2013 "

It turns out you do know what I'm talking about.

 

[arvc40]

Re: Re:

Some of the Contador fans here are more entertaining than they intend to be. From weeks of babbling about AC's inevitable crushing of all before him, to immediate doom and gloom because he lost twenty seconds in a race that is both meaningless to a rider with his palmares and also his first of the season. Does supporting the man cause bipolar disorder?

Really I have no idea what you're talking about.
There are 3 types of fans:
Miburo type "OMG he'll crush everyone" "Lol he's so bad he'll be even worse than in 2013 "
Normal fan "Let's see what he can do" "Hmm not so good after all"
Me type "Really not sure what to expect but he looks good but I really don't know but maybe he will be great but he could be bad as well" "Oh he's really bad that is so disappointing , he's always strong in his first race so this is a really bad sign "

Edit: oh and there's a 4th type, the arvc4 type - "he'll be great" "he lost loads of time but he'll still be great and everyone who thinks otherwise is thick".

Defo thick if you judge a season on 1 Stage in February.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Defo thick if you judge a season on 1 Stage in February.

I've followed him for long enough to know what I can expect based on a result. In 2013 and 2015 I kept on believing until the very end that he would come into form when it mattered yet it didn't happen.

 

[HelloDolly]

Re: Re:

I was wrong about G's form...he is looking very good again

However SKY illness list goes on as Lopez crashed

He is exactly the same as last year. Average at TDU and then good in Algarve. The lack of Lopez and Kwiatkowski could make things very difficult for him if he takes the lead tomorrow.

Yes if he takes the lead tomorrow he will need them on Sunday

 

[arvc40]

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Defo thick if you judge a season on 1 Stage in February.

I've followed him for long enough to know what I can expect based on a result. In 2013 and 2015 I kept on believing until the very end that he would come into form when it mattered yet it didn't happen.

Fair enough.

 

[Red Rick]

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Defo thick if you judge a season on 1 Stage in February.

I've followed him for long enough to know what I can expect based on a result. In 2013 and 2015 I kept on believing until the very end that he would come into form when it mattered yet it didn't happen.

Flo, at least give him enough credit to keep having hope for more than 2 stages will ya . This result is too crappy to just be explained by bad form, which is a good thing in itself, if I make sense

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Defo thick if you judge a season on 1 Stage in February.

I've followed him for long enough to know what I can expect based on a result. In 2013 and 2015 I kept on believing until the very end that he would come into form when it mattered yet it didn't happen.

Flo, at least give him enough credit to keep having hope for more than 2 stages will ya . This result is too crappy to just be explained by bad form, which is a good thing in itself, if I make sense

I'll wait to see what he can do tomorrow in the ITT. Don't have high hopes.
Hopefully Luisle or Tony can beat Thomas overall!
Agree the result almost seems too bad to be real.