Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta 2025 ( February 19 - February 23)

[theyoungest]

I understood the comment to mean that WvA knowingly sprinted within the deviation for several hundred kilometres.

That should certainly be a punishable offense

 

[Red Rick]

I think only chance was if the lead guy was aware of which was the correct side. Everyone after that going for the sprint is in oxygen debt and just following wheels, pretty hard to change course then.

Which is why the # of riders going wrong is not an argument for why it was so badly signalled.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

WvA knowingly sprinted within the deviation for several hundred kilometres

Now we know what gaviria would do in these circumstances

 

[Sciatic]

Because why?

1. It is signaled, you can see it in the replay
2. They have the same finish every year
3. They have a road book
4. Riders just blindly follow the motor around the moment the motor will generally leave the parcours in every single finish


You can debate the quality of signaling, but if you instantly assume anything other than your own reason is arguing in bad faith, guess what that's called.

It's also not like there's no general trend of these debates always blaming organiser and always absolving riders just because riders are the idols and organisers/UCI are always the boogieman.

I believe the signaling was after they’d already taken the wrong side of the roundabout, so even if they made the adjustment at the final road divider it would have been chaotic. But not as wild as this.

 

[postmanhat]

Because why?

1. It is signaled, you can see it in the replay
2. They have the same finish every year
3. They have a road book
4. Riders just blindly follow the motor around the moment the motor will generally leave the parcours in every single finish


You can debate the quality of signaling, but if you instantly assume anything other than your own reason is arguing in bad faith, guess what that's called.

It's also not like there's no general trend of these debates always blaming organiser and always absolving riders just because riders are the idols and organisers/UCI are always the boogieman.

Every DS should be made to stand on the podium tomorrow morning and apologise for being too lazy to read a roadbook.

 

[E_F_]

Long stage...

Hahahahaha I'm really, really tired. Perhaps the "haters" are wrong, and I really should shut up... But I don't think I will...

 

[RedheadDane]

Hahahahaha I'm really, really tired. Perhaps the "haters" are wrong, and I really *should* shut up... But I don't think I will...

Did you go for a ride and sprint for several hundred kilometres?

 

[Sciatic]

Looked to me like they were already wrong when they passed the poor motorcyclist in a red jacket: it was a crazy chicane that late in the race otherwise.

They needed to stay left onto the roundabout, but there was nothing on the long wide lead in to that to indicate so.

Exactly. That was the last chance to correct the direction but they were already off course.

 

[Rob5091]

So whoever the guys at the front, trailing the moto were, should get the "van Gils slap" across the head.

Seems like this stage will disappear from the annals of races, but we who saw it will remember to tell our grandkids etc.

 

[Didinho]

Lotto did a recon yesterday and the first rider who went to the wrong side was Jarrad Drizners from Lotto. Said it was really confusing with no barriers and the motorbike suddenly in front to that side.

 

[Tim Cahill]

They need to get regular interviews with De Lie after every stage, man just says whatever pops into his head, like Remco pre-media training, this time blaming his own teammate for the chaos.

 

[Sciatic]

That's completely insane. He should get a significant ban for knowingly endangering himself, other riders, and the public. And also have his head examined.

What?

 

[E_F_]

What?

Scroll further down, and you'll find my explanation for my misunderstanding of the comment.

 

[Brullnux]

Because why?

1. It is signaled, you can see it in the replay
2. They have the same finish every year
3. They have a road book
4. Riders just blindly follow the motor around the moment the motor will generally leave the parcours in every single finish


You can debate the quality of signaling, but if you instantly assume anything other than your own reason is arguing in bad faith, guess what that's called.

It's also not like there's no general trend of these debates always blaming organiser and always absolving riders just because riders are the idols and organisers/UCI are always the boogieman.

Exactly, and I think this is what blaming the riders here is reacting to rather than what actually happened. It is abysmally signalled, you can't realistically expect people to see that when riding at 60km/h - the only people who did were 30 wheels back and on the left hand side. Also, since it's a peloton, the only people making the decision are the front 10-20 riders, after which you sort of have to follow unless you are on Ganna's side of the road. It was a ***-up, riders partly to blame but organisers obviously more so - until the faux-spring occurred, which is purely on the riders.

 

[RedheadDane]

until the faux-spring occurred

Yeah, don't try to have spring in February! It's winter...

 

[Sciatic]

Scroll further down, and you'll find my explanation for my misunderstanding of the comment.

Thanks for clarifying!

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Absolute robbery to take the win away from Ganna, it's not like this was of relevance for GC. You're just punishing riders that went correctly for no reason, no one is benefitting from Ganna being denied a nice early season victory.

 

[RedheadDane]

Absolute robbery to take the win away from Gamma, it's not like this was of relevance for GC. You're just punishing riders that went correctly for no reason, no one is benefitting from Ganna being denied a nice early season victory.

Not to mention the riders who - you know - went on the attack and scored points out on the route.

 

[E_F_]

Absolute robbery to take the win away from Gamma, it's not like this was of relevance for GC. You're just punishing riders that went correctly for no reason, no one is benefitting from Ganna being denied a nice early season victory.

They did it this way because it's the least work.

 

[Red Rick]

They did it this way because it's the least work.

No, least work is just neutralizing times and letting him have the stage. This is some sort of twisted public apology.

 

[E_F_]

No, least work is just neutralizing times and letting him have the stage. This is some sort of twisted public apology.

Yeah, you're right.

 

[Netserk]

No, least work is just neutralizing times and letting him have the stage. This is some sort of twisted public apology.

Stage order for the riders who never crossed the finish-line is more work than just annulling the stage.

 

[topcat]

This stage has no winner, so did it really happen?
This stage has got the Forum going nicely in 2025.
I'd take this stage 99 times out of 100 over a boring Pog sprint win.
Good for the lols and appropriate for the image of pro cycling.
We're back in business.

 

[Red Rick]

Stage order for the riders who never crossed the finish-line is more work than just annulling the stage.

Just put them in by bib number or alphabetically who cares.

 

[E_F_]

Just put them in by bib number or alphabetically who cares.

UCI points! Relegation!!