Volta Ciclista a Catalunya 2023, March 20-26

[Andy schleck]

They could and they surely would have had he lost. But how does that make my point any less true?

Take it easy.
Remco is gonna win this race. You don't need to find excuses today. Unless you tell me, that you are in a heavy battle with @houtdffan to see who is the remco Evenepoel fan number one.

 

[Red Rick]

True, this finish is actually pretty similar to the one in Quebec, but I think it's also pretty clear that Evenepoel should be able to sprint. He's not the skinny climber type like Gesink.

In terms of body type yeah.

I don't really remember where the Evenepoel being a complete pancake came from. Can't imagine it was just from getting outsprinted by sprinty boy Colbrelli right?

 

[Riek s]

In terms of body type yeah.

I don't really remember where the Evenepoel being a complete pancake came from. Can't imagine it was just from getting outsprinted by sprinty boy Colbrelli right?

Well he was a pancake when he joined the pro's. That is also something he stated himself. Was one of the topics he really worked hard on with his ambition to win classics.

 

[search]

Lol that's ridiculous. Gap between 25th and 26th didn't seem bigger than some of the gaps behind that.

it was an "expected bunch sprint" kind of stage, so needed to be a 3s gap between riders to start a new group. Going by that video, I think it just was

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637849005760585728

View: https://twitter.com/eurosport/status/1637849005760585728

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Has anyone ever gone from not having a sprint at all to being one of the fastest GC riders as rapidly as Evenepoel has? 2019-20 Evenepoel could have started this one in Roglic' wheel and still wouldn't have made the top-5, now he coasts past everyone bar Roglic (who, tbf, was forced to go pretty early) on a hill that probably isn't even half as difficult as the Cauberg. Extraordinary development.

A lot of it is freshness i presume. He's always been great at pacing himself even when on the limit, but i imagine in 2019 he didn't have the same volume as he has now. In 2020 he also won on Alto da Foia, wich also wasn't super steep. Different sprint, surely, but it was the first time he showed he did have some punch.

 

[Samamba]

it was an "expected bunch sprint" kind of stage, so needed to be a 3s gap between riders to start a new group. Going by that video, I think it just was

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637849005760585728

View: https://twitter.com/eurosport/status/1637849005760585728

Sure but then the gap between Fabbro and Adria is also 3 seconds, I don't see how that's not atleast the same gap but ok

 

[Berflamand]

Pretty stupid move by Remco to get second. He wants to win a stage in his rainbow jersey but now when he'll win a stage later in the race it'll probably be (at least) in the best young riders jersey.

Or are you allowed to deny wearing the young riders jersey when you are World (or National?) Champion?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Take it easy.
Remco is gonna win this race. You don't need to find excuses today. Unless you tell me, that you are in a heavy battle with @houtdffan to see who is the remco Evenepoel fan number one.

Um, maybe reread your post and you take it easy. I stated the obvious and you came in claiming i was making excuses, and now are doing it again. Go play your fanboy card elsewhere.

 

[theyoungest]

In terms of body type yeah.

I don't really remember where the Evenepoel being a complete pancake came from. Can't imagine it was just from getting outsprinted by sprinty boy Colbrelli right?

If I had to make a one-two for this stage prior to the race, I'd have picked Roglic and Evenepoel, in random order. I understand his fans being quite thrilled he can sprint, but it's not that surprising really.

 

[Red Rick]

Pretty stupid move by Remco to get second. He wants to win a stage in his rainbow jersey but now when he'll win a stage later in the race it'll probably be (at least) in the best young riders jersey.

Or are you allowed to deny wearing the young riders jersey when you are World (or National?) Champion?

You can only reject a jersey if you don't lead the classification anyway IIRC.

 

[BR2]

If I had to make a one-two for this stage prior to the race, I'd have picked Roglic and Evenepoel, in random order. I understand his fans being quite thrilled he can sprint, but it's not that surprising really.

Most surprising is Ciccone outsprinting Hayter actually...

 

[Blanco]

Roglic fans also can say that he started the sprint to soon.

And they would be right too...

 

[search]

Most surprising is Ciccone outsprinting Hayter actually...

to be fair, it's Hayter's first race back after breaking his collarbone at CEGORR

 

[theyoungest]

to be fair, it's Hayter's first race back after breaking his collarbone at CEGORR

Close but no...

 

[Mayomaniac]

Most surprising is Ciccone outsprinting Hayter actually...

Ciccone looked really strong on the MTF in Tirreno (despite the headwind). I'm curious the see what he'll do on the coming stages.

 

[search]

Close but no...

?

Ethan Hayter’s early season ambitions hit by fractured collarbone

Ineos Grenadiers rider to miss European Track Championship

www.cyclingnews.com

he didn't race since

 

[VeloMaster]

Gosh, this place is swarming with fanboys. It should be fun in a few days.

Interesting to note the predominant discourse: Remco lost, not Rogla won.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Interesting to note the predominant discourse: Remco lost, not Rogla won.

And he was again taken for a sprint win by the Jumbo train.

 

[how yes no?]

They could and they surely would have had he lost. But how does that make my point any less true?

It's the context in which facts are mentioned that implies their interpretation.
Something being an excuse does neither equate nor imply the thing being a lie. Excuses are a legitimate thing, but they are nevertheless excuses in the sense that they explain why something did or didn't happen, with the subjective position that it would be better if it was otherwise. I think it's a fact you'd preffer it for Remco to win and you provided (probably true?) reasons why it didn't happen. That's a clear example of an excuse. It doesn't even matter if that was not your intention.

 

[Lequack]

Vintage Remco uphill sprint in the last 100 meters.

 

[KenFiamingo]

Very satisfied to finally see Evenepoel trust his (uphill) sprint. Hopefully the same trust will improve his positioning.
He should defnitely race Fleche Wallonne, which would even favor him more.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Something being an excuse does neither equate not imply the thing being a lie. Excuses are a legitimate thing, but they are nevertheless excuses.
It's the context in which facts are mentioned that implies their interpretation.

My point was actually far more a criticism than an excuse. But people will read what they like.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Vintage Remco uphill sprint in the last 100 meters.

He launched like a rocketship from 15 wheels back in the last 200m . I thought Prime Gaviria had stolen his bike and kit. Remco the greyhound of Aalst

 

[Lequack]

The new Remco

 

[johnymax]

Roglič: 4
Remco: 0

In stages this season, not counting the TTT. Let's see if Remco can narrow the gap till the end of Catalunya.