Vuelta 2013 route

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Pardon me??

Do you consider this to be "easy"??

Like I said, anything after the steep section is easy. Exposed wide roads at under 7%. Nothing to get too excited about.

 

[Netserk]

Like I said, anything after the steep section is easy. Exposed wide roads at under 7%. Nothing to get too excited about.

Really
It's one of the most beautiful profiles of a climb I have ever seen , ofc it's not pure p0rn like Zonc, but damn it's close to perfect IMO.

 

[apmfbs]

I hope the route of Asturiano will be close to the real one. The stages to Gallina and especially Granada and Naranco would be so much better than mountain routes of past years.
If they use Haza llana-sabinas it could be an exciting stage.

 

[Descender]

Like I said, anything after the steep section is easy. Exposed wide roads at under 7%. Nothing to get too excited about.

When you say "roads at under 7%" you mean "except for 7 kilometres", right?

That steep section you mention is 5 kms at 11%, which would be a cat 1 climb in its own right.

Those "exposed wide roads" provided for a very interesting stage the only time it was used, with some nice gaps between contenders and 55 riders crossing the finish line out of the time limit.

1 David Moncoutié (Fra) Cofidis 5:09:22
2 Ezequiel Mosquera (Spa) Xacobeo Galicia 0:00:52
3 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 0:01:16
4 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank 0:01:17
5 Ivan Basso (Ita) Liquigas
6 Samuel Sánchez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0:01:37
7 Joaquím Rodríguez (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 0:02:09
8 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence-Lotto 0:02:24
9 Paolo Tiralongo (Ita) Lampre-NGC 0:02:31
10 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis 0:03:37
11 Christophe Riblon (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:03:49
12 Vasil Kiryienka (Blr) Caisse d'Epargne 0:04:41
13 Juan Manuel Gárate (Spa) Rabobank 0:04:48
14 Johnny Hoogerland (Ned) Vacansoleil 0:04:52
15 Françis De Greef (Bel) Silence-Lotto 0:05:12
16 David Herrero (Spa) Xacobeo Galicia 0:05:19
17 Igor Antón (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0:05:26
18 Koos Moerenhout (Ned) Rabobank 0:05:32
19 Daniel Navarro (Spa) Astana 0:05:36
20 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Astana 0:06:59

I don't know what your standards for a hard climb are, but if you consider a 27 kms long, 6,5% steep, 2400 metres high climb with a steep section of 5 kms at 11%, including a full km at 14% and a maximum gradient of 21% "nothing to get excited about", then I guess you don't get excited very often.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

This must be a fake route. There are 200km stages.

 

[Red Rick]

This must be a fake route. There are 200km stages.

And there are stages with opportunities to attack from further than 5k out
And there are descent finishes
And it's three months early

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

When you say "roads at under 7%" you mean "except for 7 kilometres", right?

That steep section you mention is 5 kms at 11%, which would be a cat 1 climb in its own right.

Those "exposed wide roads" provided for a very interesting stage the only time it was used, with some nice gaps between contenders and 55 riders crossing the finish line out of the time limit.



I don't know what your standards for a hard climb are, but if you consider a 27 kms long, 6,5% steep, 2400 metres high climb with a steep section of 5 kms at 11%, including a full km at 14% and a maximum gradient of 21% "nothing to get excited about", then I guess you don't get excited very often.

Unlike you I don't like 14 kms @ 6.8% uphill drags on exposed highways. It all depends on where the steep parts are and how exposed the climb is. If the last 15 kms are **** it won't matter too much if they're preceded by a steep 1st category climb. It won't likely be raced "hard" because, other than Froome, there are no super domestiques anymore. That makes all the difference.

That "interesting" stage (other than Evans' mechanical it wasn't interesting at all) is a case in point. It was a MTF and it still didn't lead to meaningful differences among the main GC contenders. This time it'd be followed by a) a long straightforward descent b) like 10 kms of flat c) an uphill finish on the Alhambra d) it doesn't have Vino. It didn't then but you get the point; GC-relevant attacks would be highly unlikely.

The GC guys would want to save their energy for the uphill sprint, unless one of them clearly has a bad day. This stage could be great, just like about any mountain stage, but it'd most likely be much worse than the "queen stages" of the Giro and Tour. You can spin it any which way you like, but this would likely be a boring stage GC-wise.

The route is probably fake, though.

 

[Descender]

Unlike you I don't like 15 km 6.8% uphill drags on exposed highways. It all depends on where the steep parts are and how exposed they are. If the last 15 kms are **** it won't matter too much if it's preceded by a steep 1st category climb. It won't likely be raced "hard" because, other than Froome, there are no super domestiques anymore. That makes all the difference.

That "interesting" stage (other than Evans' mechanical it wasn't interesting at all) is a case in point. It was a MTF and it still didn't lead to meaningful differences among the main GC contenders. This time it'd be followed by a) a long straightforward descent b) like 10 kms of flat c) an uphill finish on the Alhambra d) it doesn't have Vino. I didn't then but you get the point; GC-relevant attacks would be highly unlikely.

The GC guys would want to save their energy for the uphill sprint, unless one of them clearly has a bad day. This stage could be great, like just about any mountain stage, but it'll most likely be much worse than the "queen stages" of the Giro and Tour. You can spin it any which way you like, but this would likely be a boring stage GC-wise.

The route is probably fake, though.

Wow, you've really lost all your faith haven't you?

That "15 kms at 6,8%" long uphill drag on an exposed highway comes right after 5 kms at 11%. No matter how you spin it, that makes a difference.

The 2009 created more gaps than any other mountain stage of that Vuelta even without Evans' mechanical.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Wow, you've really lost all your faith haven't you?

That "15 kms at 6,8%" long uphill drag on an exposed highway comes right after 5 kms at 11%. No matter how you spin it, that makes a difference.

The 2009 created more gaps than any other mountain stage of that Vuelta even without Evans' mechanical.

It's not a MTF or a descent finish. That makes a huge difference, too. There would be more than a few GC-relevant stages after this, also. Who would want to attack?

I expect Purito and Valverde to be among the strongest climbers, anyway.

 

[Asturiano]

It's obvious many of the stages are going to change but the thing is these stages were planned by Olano and members of Unipublic. It's like a basis to start working on the definitive version.

It looks like Oviedo wants a final stage in Naranco but Unipublic is very interested on Angliru.

 

[bicifan]

Great expectations for La Vuelta 2013!

Ahora el ciclismo se televisa y no se pueden ofrecer dos horas en las que no pase nada. Por eso se requieren etapas cortas, nerviosas y difíciles de controlar; si es con finales en alto, mejor.

Cycling is now televised and we cannot broadcast 2 hours in which nothing happens. That's why short stages are required, stressful and difficult to control, and if they finish on a mountain top, even better.

Source: http://www.as.com/opinion/articulo/vuelta-vuelve-ser-vuelta/20121022dasdaiopi_8/Tes

 

[Eshnar]

Ahora el ciclismo se televisa y no se pueden ofrecer dos horas en las que no pase nada. Por eso se requieren etapas cortas, nerviosas y difíciles de controlar; si es con finales en alto, mejor.

this whole concept is wrong in so many ways I don't know where to start...
If you can't offer two hours in which nothing happen, why u no design stages to encourage attacking from far? Is that the reason why you just didn't air anything but the last 30 kms of each stage? Is this your answer? You can't air two hours so you air one only?
If short stages are so nervous and difficult to control, why no breakaways have delivered in the last Vuelta?

 

[LaFlorecita]

this whole concept is wrong in so many ways I don't know where to start...
If you can't offer two hours in which nothing happen, why u no design stages to encourage attacking from far? Is that the reason why you just didn't air anything but the last 30 kms of each stage? Is this your answer? You can't air two hours so you air one only?
If short stages are so nervous and difficult to control, why no breakaways have delivered in the last Vuelta?

Also funny that because of this we missed half of Alberto's 50 km attack

 

[42x16ss]

this whole concept is wrong in so many ways I don't know where to start...
If you can't offer two hours in which nothing happen, why u no design stages to encourage attacking from far? Is that the reason why you just didn't air anything but the last 30 kms of each stage? Is this your answer? You can't air two hours so you air one only?
If short stages are so nervous and difficult to control, why no breakaways have delivered in the last Vuelta?

Contador and Simon Clarke might disagree but you are right, Unipublic are going about this backwards

 

[Eshnar]

Contador and Simon Clarke might disagree but you are right, Unipublic are going about this backwards

2 breakaways out of 21 stages must be a negative all-time record.
And I'm not sure the Contador win should be classified as breakaway.

 

[Ferminal]

What type of breakaway? There was also Cummings and Menchov.

 

[Eshnar]

What type of breakaway? There was also Cummings and Menchov.

first hour breakaway. Yes I forgot them (1 proper breakaway was really too few to be true )
And probably Cataldo could be considered too.

 

[l.Harm]

Nice route

 

[Descender]

Juan Mora is the ultimate clown. He is the ultimate tool in the world of cycling journalism. Next to him Harmon and Liggett are ****ing geniuses.

Juan Mora is bad for your health. There should be warning signs like the ones on cigarette packages next to every single one of his articles.

 

[Asturiano]

Ciclismo | Vuelta a España
La Vuelta a España 2013 sí dará la vuelta a España
Las llegadas en alto volverán a ser la apuesta: más de la mitad

La Vuelta a España 2013 sí dará la vuelta a España
ampliar imagen

Juan Gutiérrez | 22/10/2012

El recorrido de la Vuelta a España 2013 sí dará la vuelta a España. No es sólo un juego de palabras. Después de la singularidad de la edición de 2012, que se disputó íntegramente por el norte (Madrid fue el punto más meridional), los organizadores están diseñando un trazado que dará prácticamente un giro completo al territorio peninsular (con una incursión en Andorra), entre el 24 de agosto y el 15 de septiembre.

Según pudo saber AS, y a la espera de que el recorrido se termine de definir, la secuencia (ver mapa) sería más o menos la siguiente: Galicia, Castilla y León, Extremadura, Andalucía, Comunitat Valenciana, Catalunya, Andorra, Aragón, otra vez Castilla y León, Cantabria y/o Asturias, y traslado final a Madrid.

Vamos por partes. La Vuelta a España partirá de Galicia, de las Rías Baixas. La primera etapa volverá a ser una contrarreloj por equipos, algo más larga que otras veces: unos 27 kilómetros. La originalidad es que partirá desde una batea (la plataforma donde se crían los mejillones) en el puerto de Vilanova de Arousa. Se quiere conseguir el efecto visual en televisión de que los ciclistas rueden sobre el mar.

Durante su periplo por Galicia, la Vuelta planea uno de sus platos fuertes: un final de exigentes pendientes en Fisterra, previo paso por el Mirador de Ézaro (meta este año). Las cuestas volverán a ser una de las señas de identidad del recorrido: habrá algunas nuevas, como la que se está barajando en Cáceres, y otras ya clásicas, como sería la pionera Valdepeñas de Jaén (todavía sin confirmar), donde también se está estudiando la creación de un museo dedicado al ciclismo.

Entre cuestas y puertos, las llegadas en alto pasarán de la decena (más de la mitad de las etapas), con una sola crono individual. La fórmula funcionó este 2012, y la Vuelta quiere repetir la experiencia.
Montañas del sur.

A diferencia de la pasada edición, también habrá una o dos llegadas después del descenso de un puerto: una de ellas, tras el Collado de las Sabinillas (en Sierra Nevada, Granada). Entre las metas en alto que recibirán su bautismo en la Vuelta 2013 está Peñas Blancas, en Estepona. El primer fin de semana ya habrá una fuerte ración de montaña por el sur.

Desde Andalucía, la Vuelta a España ascenderá por el Levante hasta llegar a los Pirineos. En la última semana se volverá a la cornisa cantábrica. Habrá metas en algún puerto de Cantabria y/o Asturias, desde donde se bajará posteriormente en un traslado a Madrid.

Aún es pronto para hablar de participación, aunque ya se conoce la intención de Purito Rodríguez, mientras que el Sky medita que Wiggins haga en 2013 Giro y Vuelta, para reservar el Tour a Chris Froome.
Otros detalles

Ponferrada. Tras la confirmación del Mundial 2014, una de las etapas de la Vuelta previstas sería sobre el circuito de este campeonato.

Presentación. El recorrido de 2013 se presentará el 12 de diciembre o el 9 de enero en la provincia de Pontevedra.

Canarias espera. El paso por Canarias se descartó finalmente para 2013, pero ya se trabaja para incluirlo en 2014.

Holanda. La retirada del patrocinio de Rabobank a sus equipos no enfría la intención de Emmen (Drenthe) de acoger la salida de la Vuelta en 2015.

 

[Descender]

Ciclismo | Vuelta a España
La Vuelta a España 2013 sí dará la vuelta a España
Las llegadas en alto volverán a ser la apuesta: más de la mitad

La Vuelta a España 2013 sí dará la vuelta a España
ampliar imagen

Juan Gutiérrez | 22/10/2012

El recorrido de la Vuelta a España 2013 sí dará la vuelta a España. No es sólo un juego de palabras. Después de la singularidad de la edición de 2012, que se disputó íntegramente por el norte (Madrid fue el punto más meridional), los organizadores están diseñando un trazado que dará prácticamente un giro completo al territorio peninsular (con una incursión en Andorra), entre el 24 de agosto y el 15 de septiembre.

Según pudo saber AS, y a la espera de que el recorrido se termine de definir, la secuencia (ver mapa) sería más o menos la siguiente: Galicia, Castilla y León, Extremadura, Andalucía, Comunitat Valenciana, Catalunya, Andorra, Aragón, otra vez Castilla y León, Cantabria y/o Asturias, y traslado final a Madrid.

Vamos por partes. La Vuelta a España partirá de Galicia, de las Rías Baixas. La primera etapa volverá a ser una contrarreloj por equipos, algo más larga que otras veces: unos 27 kilómetros. La originalidad es que partirá desde una batea (la plataforma donde se crían los mejillones) en el puerto de Vilanova de Arousa. Se quiere conseguir el efecto visual en televisión de que los ciclistas rueden sobre el mar.

Durante su periplo por Galicia, la Vuelta planea uno de sus platos fuertes: un final de exigentes pendientes en Fisterra, previo paso por el Mirador de Ézaro (meta este año). Las cuestas volverán a ser una de las señas de identidad del recorrido: habrá algunas nuevas, como la que se está barajando en Cáceres, y otras ya clásicas, como sería la pionera Valdepeñas de Jaén (todavía sin confirmar), donde también se está estudiando la creación de un museo dedicado al ciclismo.

Entre cuestas y puertos, las llegadas en alto pasarán de la decena (más de la mitad de las etapas), con una sola crono individual. La fórmula funcionó este 2012, y la Vuelta quiere repetir la experiencia.
Montañas del sur.

A diferencia de la pasada edición, también habrá una o dos llegadas después del descenso de un puerto: una de ellas, tras el Collado de las Sabinillas (en Sierra Nevada, Granada). Entre las metas en alto que recibirán su bautismo en la Vuelta 2013 está Peñas Blancas, en Estepona. El primer fin de semana ya habrá una fuerte ración de montaña por el sur.

Desde Andalucía, la Vuelta a España ascenderá por el Levante hasta llegar a los Pirineos. En la última semana se volverá a la cornisa cantábrica. Habrá metas en algún puerto de Cantabria y/o Asturias, desde donde se bajará posteriormente en un traslado a Madrid.

Aún es pronto para hablar de participación, aunque ya se conoce la intención de Purito Rodríguez, mientras que el Sky medita que Wiggins haga en 2013 Giro y Vuelta, para reservar el Tour a Chris Froome.
Otros detalles

Ponferrada. Tras la confirmación del Mundial 2014, una de las etapas de la Vuelta previstas sería sobre el circuito de este campeonato.

Presentación. El recorrido de 2013 se presentará el 12 de diciembre o el 9 de enero en la provincia de Pontevedra.

Canarias espera. El paso por Canarias se descartó finalmente para 2013, pero ya se trabaja para incluirlo en 2014.

Holanda. La retirada del patrocinio de Rabobank a sus equipos no enfría la intención de Emmen (Drenthe) de acoger la salida de la Vuelta en 2015.

Very old article and even outdated info (Drenthe did drop out).

 

[Descender]

Talks about a repeat of this:

 

[jens_attacks]

that was a good stage
i like it.

 

[apmfbs]

That is perhaps the toughest stage ever in the Vuelta.............it would be a good thing to repeeat it.

Another good option could be a similar stage to Alpe Dhuez 2013, with the Cobertoria two times.

The " problem" is that the possibility of Angliru could devaluate the other stage in Asturias.

I would like on Friday and Saturday two different stages ( one with a finish summit and the other one after descent ).
At the moment there are a lot of rumours of climbs.................in Andalucia, Pirineos, Andorra, Asturias.........at least I pray for some good stages

 

[Descender]

You've got to be kidding... I'm reading now there is apparently no truth to the rumours about one or two descent finishes. The Granada stage will actually finish in Sierra Nevada again, and the Pola de Lena stage probably on top of the Cobertoria.

The amount of MTFs for the next edition of the Vuelta is rumoured to be between 11 and 13.

Just when you think Unipublic can't get more ridiculous...