Vuelta 2018 stage 15:Ribera del Arriba - Lagos de Covadonga

[Rollthedice]

I'm not sure if Quintana turned into a defensive, podium hunting, decent GT rider of if he just can't physically and mentally ride for the win.

 

[Climbing]

They should all destroy each other in the mountains and give everything they got!
... while The Shark rests for the Worlds!

 

[Kwibus]

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Idk why Pisti is still sprouting nonsense. Probably pissed off Kruijswijk hasn't dropped for good like all Belgians do in every race that goes uphill for longer than 5km.

Lopez finally doing something else than attacking/stopping or wheelsucking. For the love of god FINALLY.
Quintana on the other hand... just retire please

Dude why do you bother? Pisto usually is on his own with opinions anyways. Let him get annoyed by Kruijswijk and enjoy it.

 

[Laplaz]

Aru behind Brambilla, pathetic.

 

[bambino]

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It kind of feels Quintana is banking for Yates having that 1/2 bad days in the 3rd week.

He might be right.

Definitely feels that way, it’s a dangerous game to play though.

How come it isn't obvious to you (and everybody else) that he just couldn't do more? There is no game being played, it depends on legs. And he doesn't have it and therefore Valverde shouldn't help him since Valverde himself as a better chance of winning at this point.

My point also including his service to Valverde, he could absolutely have done more today for his teammate, instead they both lost more time to Yates and Lopez.

If Yates has a bad day they could both lose to Lopez, like I said, it’s a dangerous game to play.

Lopez will not get the +1m back that he needs after TT.

 

[LaFlorecita]

A great win for a courageous Thibaut, a jaunty Enric, the top-5 going neck and neck. I am liking this Vuelta

 

[Climbing]

I guess it will be between the top 3 after the TT.
Possibly Valverde in red.

 

[bambino]

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I guess it will be between the top 3 after the TT.
Possibly Valverde in red.

Pretty sure Valverde will lead by about 20-30s after TT.

 

[El Pistolero]

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Idk why Pisti is still sprouting nonsense. Probably pissed off Kruijswijk hasn't dropped for good like all Belgians do in every race that goes uphill for longer than 5km.

Lopez finally doing something else than attacking/stopping or wheelsucking. For the love of god FINALLY.
Quintana on the other hand... just retire please

Dude why do you bother? Pisto usually is on his own with opinions anyways. Let him get annoyed by Kruijswijk and enjoy it.

I doubt there's a single person on this forum, outside of some Dutch people, that think Kruijswijk is a tactical genius.

Constantly riding at the front with other people in your wheel is a dumb tactic. He never even asks anyone to pull and they constantly ride away from him at the end.

Please tell me how his actions during the Tour this year were acceptable? He made Roglic lose the podium.

 

[movingtarget]

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Quintana looks a bit shaky at the moment. His attacks are not effective. The TT could be interesting.

Which attack are you talking about? Surely not the 0 attacks he did today?

Well he did move to the front.......momentarily.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Aru behind Brambilla, pathetic.

Just checked, he finished some 30 seconds later than Sander Armee.

 

[Inquitus]

Yates v Valverde for the title I feel, there are some Murito finishes next week where bonifications could be important, Valvarde would take 30 odd seconds off Yates in the TT, you'd think. Quintana just doesn't seem to have it in the legs and MAL needs to be taking time on these finishes as his TT is the worst of the remaining favourites. Steven Kruijswijk is also a big danger with the TT to come. The Pyrenean stages are going to be epic after the TT and the Murito and the Mountains of next week!

GC after today's Stage

Stage 17

Stage 19

Stage 20

 

[The_Beach]

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Idk why Pisti is still sprouting nonsense. Probably pissed off Kruijswijk hasn't dropped for good like all Belgians do in every race that goes uphill for longer than 5km.

Lopez finally doing something else than attacking/stopping or wheelsucking. For the love of god FINALLY.
Quintana on the other hand... just retire please

Dude why do you bother? Pisto usually is on his own with opinions anyways. Let him get annoyed by Kruijswijk and enjoy it.

I doubt there's a single person on this forum, outside of some Dutch people, that think Kruijswijk is a tactical genius.

Constantly riding at the front with other people in your wheel is a dumb tactic. He never even asks anyone to pull and they constantly ride away from him at the end.

Please tell me how his actions during the Tour this year were acceptable? He made Roglic lose the podium.

Roglic terrible time trial lost him the podium

 

[El Pistolero]

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Idk why Pisti is still sprouting nonsense. Probably pissed off Kruijswijk hasn't dropped for good like all Belgians do in every race that goes uphill for longer than 5km.

Lopez finally doing something else than attacking/stopping or wheelsucking. For the love of god FINALLY.
Quintana on the other hand... just retire please

Dude why do you bother? Pisto usually is on his own with opinions anyways. Let him get annoyed by Kruijswijk and enjoy it.

I doubt there's a single person on this forum, outside of some Dutch people, that think Kruijswijk is a tactical genius.

Constantly riding at the front with other people in your wheel is a dumb tactic. He never even asks anyone to pull and they constantly ride away from him at the end.

Please tell me how his actions during the Tour this year were acceptable? He made Roglic lose the podium.

Roglic terrible time trial lost him the podium

Froome could have lost more than a minute in the stage Roglic win, if Kruijswijk didn't bring him back. As for that terrible time trial, he was still 8th lol.

 

[IndianCyclist]

This year is showing that Aru is no longer a climber and Quintana is just one among the climbers

 

[HelloDolly]

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Aru behind Brambilla, pathetic.

Brambilla rode well today..he is improving ..could yet do a top 10

Tony Gallopin is not a GC rider ...
David de la Criz was SKY leader...he has been so poor
Aru continues to go backwards
And same for Kelderman ...
Zakarin ...who knows what happened to him since last year

 

[Laplaz]

Aru should hunt stages

 

[El Pistolero]

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Aru behind Brambilla, pathetic.

Brambilla rode well today..he is improving ..could yet do a top 10

Tony Gallopin is not a GC rider ...
David de la Criz was SKY leader...he has been so poor
Aru continues to go backwards
And same for Keldermna ...
Zakarin ...who knows what happened to him since last year

David de la Cruz should have changed his nationality before he started the Vuelta.

 

[The_Beach]

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Idk why Pisti is still sprouting nonsense. Probably pissed off Kruijswijk hasn't dropped for good like all Belgians do in every race that goes uphill for longer than 5km.

Lopez finally doing something else than attacking/stopping or wheelsucking. For the love of god FINALLY.
Quintana on the other hand... just retire please

Dude why do you bother? Pisto usually is on his own with opinions anyways. Let him get annoyed by Kruijswijk and enjoy it.

I doubt there's a single person on this forum, outside of some Dutch people, that think Kruijswijk is a tactical genius.

Constantly riding at the front with other people in your wheel is a dumb tactic. He never even asks anyone to pull and they constantly ride away from him at the end.

Please tell me how his actions during the Tour this year were acceptable? He made Roglic lose the podium.

Roglic terrible time trial lost him the podium

Froome could have lost more than a minute in the stage Roglic win, if Kruijswijk didn't bring him back. As for that terrible time trial, he was still 8th lol.

Lol I would say losing 1:12 to the winner, when you are one of the two biggest favorites is pretty bad

 

[Sestriere]

To me it looks like there is no clear communication within Movistar. Both, Valverde and Quintana don't ride against each other, yet they don't ride to maximise the chance for one of them winning. When Valverde is in the group he rides from the front, when he is dropped Quintana looks uncertain about wether he should ride on. One of them should ride for the other or it will be very difficult for them.. Maybe one of them has to lose a lot of time for the other one to be the clear leader.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

It's so disguisting. Unfortunately Quintana doesn't deserve to win it. My hopes are focused around Simon.
Yes, it's 2nd class GT but still, what a shame would be if valverde would win it.

 

[Amazinmets87]

Did Kwiatkowski abandon?

 

[El Pistolero]

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To me it looks like there is no clear communication within Movistar. Both, Valverde and Quintana don't ride against each other, yet they don't ride to maximise the chance for one of them winning. When Valverde is in the group he rides from the front, when he is dropped Quintana looks uncertain about wether he should ride on. One of them should ride for the other or it will be very difficult for them.. Maybe one of them has to lose a lot of time for the other one to be the clear leader.

Yep, looked like that to me as well. Quintana had the legs to attack, but didn't. He only lost time in the final 200 meters because it was flatter and suited to more explosive riders, like Yates and Valverde.

 

[El Pistolero]

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Did Kwiatkowski abandon?

Last I heard he was back on his bike and trying to make it to the finish.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Aru behind Brambilla, pathetic.

Brambilla rode well today..he is improving ..could yet do a top 10

Tony Gallopin is not a GC rider ...
David de la Criz was SKY leader...he has been so poor
Aru continues to go backwards
And same for Keldermna ...
Zakarin ...who knows what happened to him since last year

David de la Cruz should have changed his nationality before he started the Vuelta.

I forgot George Bennett who like Kelderman said he targeted prepared for this Vuelta well and was ready for a good result

Also MIchael Woods ....again good last year and this year ??

Goes to show consistency is hard to find