Vuelta 2024 discussion

[Valv.Piti]

• POOLE Max*
• -BITTNER Pavel*
• -HAMILTON Chris
• -LEEMREIZE Gijs*
• -LEIJNSE Enzo*
• -NABERMAN Tim*
• -TUSVELD Martijn
• -VAN DEN BERG Julius
  
  Max Poole continues to be an exciting prospect, and Pavel Bittner has showed how fast he is. Could win a stage in this field, but not many opportunities. Is Chris Hamilton good these days? Rest seems like pack fodder if Im being honest.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Bora:

Vlasov
Roglic
Lipovitz
Martinea
Denz
Aleotti
Adria
Gamper

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823028563760603611

View: https://x.com/RBH_ProCycling/status/1823028563760603611?t=Vn9GZhq8pPtnyPfOjIiwPg&s=19

No Hindley, an absolutely shocker of a season from him. Apart from that, super strong team. Roglic the main man with Vlasov and Martinez in the wings and Lipo as a super dom in the mountains. Rest will have their work cut out.

 

[Valv.Piti]

• RICCITELLO Matthew*
• -TEUNS Dylan
• -BENNETT George
• -FRIGO Marco*
• -WOODS Michael
• -RAISBERG Nadav*
• -SHEEHAN Riley*
• -STRONG Corbin*
  
  Very decent team for hunting stages. Teuns, Frigo, Bennett and Woods can win from a break I think, and Strong is a strong sprinter when it gets tough. Riccitello targets a top-10. Not bad at all from Isreal, this team is definitely no joke no more.

 

[Valv.Piti]

• DE GENDT Thomas
• -VAN EETVELT Lennert*
• -KRON Andreas
• -LIVYNS Arjen
• -SEPÚLVEDA Eduardo
• -GREGAARD Jonas
• -CAMPENAERTS Victor
• -MONIQUET Sylvain
  
  Lenny the main main and some decent riders for the breaks in Kron, Moniquet, Campy and maybe even De Gendt! Decent team.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Of the really interesting teams (riders who I think will go in the OP and not confirmed) remains only Trek, Bahrain, EF, QS and Ineos to select their riders. We know QS will bring Landa and prolly not that much more of interest, same with Trek to some extent with Skjelmose (who I very much doubt can do well in this field anyways). Mostly curious of the teams of Bahrain, EF and Ineos who all have the capability of bringing some quite big hitters - namely Carapaz and Carlos Rodriguez. I very much expect Carapaz to go, but Carlos is a bit up in the air. Very much expect Tiberi as well, but doubt he can pull another Giro off atm and the field is a lot stronger. Buitrago could be quite interesting.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Pelayo and Quintana have been training with Samu on Lagos de Covadonga today. I expect them to be flying on stage 16.

 

[Sciatic]

Of the really interesting teams (riders who I think will go in the OP and not confirmed) remains only Trek, Bahrain, EF, QS and Ineos to select their riders. We know QS will bring Landa and prolly not that much more of interest, same with Trek to some extent with Skjelmose (who I very much doubt can do well in this field anyways). Mostly curious of the teams of Bahrain, EF and Ineos who all have the capability of bringing some quite big hitters - namely Carapaz and Carlos Rodriguez. I very much expect Carapaz to go, but Carlos is a bit up in the air. Very much expect Tiberi as well, but doubt he can pull another Giro off atm and the field is a lot stronger. Buitrago could be quite interesting.

Powless looked alive again at San Sebastion (as is his wont), so hoping he’ll be added to EF squad for stage hunting.

 

[zlev11]

this startlist is a million times better than the Giro already

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Lenny the main main and some decent riders for the breaks in Kron, Moniquet, Campy and maybe even De Gendt! Decent team.

De Gendt wrote on Twitter that he’s aiming to win stage 20😅

 

[Valv.Piti]

De Gendt wrote on Twitter that he’s aiming to win stage 20😅

If De Gendt somehow manages to turn back time on that stage with 5000 verts finishing on Picón Blanco in this field and win, then he's an absolute legend!

It wont happen, he probably wont even be close at all, but hey, go for it Thomas!

 

[Valv.Piti]

These are the riders in question at this point from the OP:

Likely:
Richard Carapaz
Antonio Tiberi
Tao G. Gart
Thymen Arensman
Santi Buitrago
Pello Bilbao
Ganna

Unlikely:
Ilan van Wilder
Egan Bernal
Laurens De Plus
Tom Pidcock

?
Giulio Ciccone
Carlos Rodriguez

 

[Mayomaniac]

Of the really interesting teams (riders who I think will go in the OP and not confirmed) remains only Trek, Bahrain, EF, QS and Ineos to select their riders. We know QS will bring Landa and prolly not that much more of interest, same with Trek to some extent with Skjelmose (who I very much doubt can do well in this field anyways). Mostly curious of the teams of Bahrain, EF and Ineos who all have the capability of bringing some quite big hitters - namely Carapaz and Carlos Rodriguez. I very much expect Carapaz to go, but Carlos is a bit up in the air. Very much expect Tiberi as well, but doubt he can pull another Giro off atm and the field is a lot stronger. Buitrago could be quite interesting.

From what I know Trek will bring Ciccone as a stagehunter.

 

[tobydawq]

These are the riders in question at this point from the OP:

Likely:
Richard Carapaz
Antonio Tiberi
Tao G. Gart
Thymen Arensman
Santi Buitrago
Pello Bilbao
Ganna

Unlikely:
Ilan van Wilder
Egan Bernal
Laurens De Plus
Tom Pidcock

?
Giulio Ciccone
Carlos Rodriguez

Bilbao is riding Poland right now.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Bilbao is riding Poland right now.

Breaking: Bilbao is not riding in Spain

 

[red_flanders]

• RICCITELLO Matthew*
• -TEUNS Dylan
• -BENNETT George
• -FRIGO Marco*
• -WOODS Michael
• -RAISBERG Nadav*
• -SHEEHAN Riley*
• -STRONG Corbin*
  
  Very decent team for hunting stages. Teuns, Frigo, Bennett and Woods can win from a break I think, and Strong is a strong sprinter when it gets tough. Riccitello targets a top-10. Not bad at all from Isreal, this team is definitely no joke no more.

Will be interesting to see what Riccitello can bring at age 22. Looks like his only other GT ride is the Giro last year? Pretty anonymous, he's done some much more interesting rides this year in the 1-week stage races.

 

[yaco]

This looks an epic race for breakaway riders and teams have selected riders who fit this profile. I predict 8 to 10 stages will go to the break.

 

[Squire]

• FORTUNATO Lorenzo
• -BRUSSENSKIY Gleb*
• -GAROFOLI Gianmarco*
• -SCHELLING Ide
• -TEJADA Harold
• -UMBA Santiago*
• -VINOKUROV Nicolas*
• -LÓPEZ Harold Martín*
  
  All I see here is some decent climbers capable of winning on a MTF from a break and then, of course, NICOLAS VINOKOUROV. Is this even confirmed? Who knwos, I hope it is, and it seems the Vino-option is back! (hopefully)

Maybe low-key TT god Tejada can do something in the GC. But I'm starting to believe he's not actually a proper high-mountain climber.

Hopefully Fortunato is let loose. Two GTs doing Zubeldia impersonations in one season is a bit too much.

I really don't have much faith in the rest, despite the Vino option. He seems somewhat decent though, just nowhere near GT stage win kinda decent.

 

[Oldermanish]

Boom shakalaka! Great news, even though I think it was more or less a no brainer given what else he realistically could target.

It'd be interesting at some point to know what it took to get him here. Not much information and none of the vaguely faux stuff we saw from his old employer before the Tour about Jonas.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

If De Gendt somehow manages to turn back time on that stage with 5000 verts finishing on Picón Blanco in this field and win, then he's an absolute legend!

It wont happen, he probably wont even be close at all, but hey, go for it Thomas!

Party like it’s Stelvio 2012.

 

[Breh]

• GAUDU David
• -BYSTRØM Sven Erik
• -GENIETS Kevin
• -GERMANI Lorenzo*
• -KÜNG Stefan
• -PACHER Quentin
• -ROCHAS Rémy
• -THOMPSON Reuben
  
  Not good, not terrible as the engineer said in the Netflix Series Chernobyl. It turned out it was not only terrible, but absolutely catastrophic. FDJ wont be that bad, maybe Gaudu can land a top-10, Küng an ITT-win and the rest of the guys can hunt for stages. Decent I guess.

HBO*

 

[FroomeWagon]

Odds now that Roglic is confirmed. Odds to win.

Roglic 9 to 4
Almeida 6 to 1
Yates 6 to 1
Kuss 6 to 1
Mas 8 to 1
Landa 16 to 1
Martinez 18 to 1
Rodriguez 20 to 1
Carapaz 25 to 1

 

[Squire]

Odds now that Roglic is confirmed. Odds to win.

Roglic 9 to 4
Almeida 6 to 1
Yates 6 to 1
Kuss 6 to 1
Mas 8 to 1
Landa 16 to 1
Martinez 18 to 1
Rodriguez 20 to 1
Carapaz 25 to 1

Considering everybody on that list bar Kuss have already done a GT this year, one of the quickly developing youngster like Poole @81 or LVE @81 might be fun bets.

 

[tobydawq]

Considering everybody on that list bar Kuss have already done a GT this year, one of the quickly developing youngster like Poole @81 or LVE @81 might be fun bets.

To win the Vuelta?

 

[Samamba]

Considering everybody on that list bar Kuss have already done a GT this year, one of the quickly developing youngster like Poole @81 or LVE @81 might be fun bets.

Fun as in dumb or? They are obviously never winning the Vuelta.

 

[Squire]

To win the Vuelta?

Yes, that was the context I was replying to.

Conditions are pretty good this year for someone to have a crazy breakthrough performance. It's a strong field on paper, but none of the contenders have really geared their season towards the Vuelta, it was a brutal Tour and there are question marks about many of them.