Vuelta a España 2011

[The Hitch]

exactly. besides its not like hushovd is a rider with the commercial value of contador, evans , schleck, canc or gilbert. in fact he is many levels below those guys.

Hes not far behind id say. Contador is the highest on that list but Cav is above him.

 

[Parrulo]

when did hushovd become such an high profile rider worth so much for the sponsors? because i was thinking he was still the same sprinters that can't win a bunch sprint and a classics rider that can't win a monument if his life was on the line. and when did he start having such great influence over the peloton?

JV is doing the right thing. i wouldn't let hushovd ride either and couldn't care less if he whines or not. he will send some1 who will stay at garmin next year and if that some1 gains points those points will count for the team license for the next 2 years.

 

[Descender]

But do we know for sure Hushivd will not be riding? As far as I know it's only a rumour.

 

[Galic Ho]

Hes not far behind id say. Contador is the highest on that list but Cav is above him.

That list had Evans, the Schlecks and Gilbert on it as well as Contador and Cav.



If that were the case, he'd earn more, but he doesn't. Contador reportedly earns six times what Cav gets. Evans, Gilbert and Contador will all earn more than Cav will in 2012. Your smoking crack if you believe otherwise or think his market value is worth more. Crazy English...come back down to earth champ and keep it real for a second or two. Wigans earns more at Sky than Cav has received the past four seasons. Not that hard to rank them on worth then is it? Don't be thinking either that his new contract will put him above everyone else...his market value will be akin to that of Wigans, aka, meaningless outside of England and other parts of Britain.

 

[The Hitch]

Unprovoked venting of anger with stupid ad hominems.

What list

"that list" reffered to Parrulos post which had Gilbert Cancellara and Contador no Cav. Based on your attitude ie. the disgusting nature of your post i can not rule out that you are deluded and seeing things but I can assure you that Cavendish does not appear in the post.

Anyway here is why I said Cav is the most marketable, why I am not smoking crack, why i am not an imbecile, and why you are.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/sportspro_blog/usain_bolt_is_the_worlds_most_marketable_athlete/
(the guy in 35th place, how many other cyclists on the list?)

Also take note that I also am not English. Take your trolling, your ridiculous ad hominem and your xenophobia elsewhere. Maybe the mods will comply in that regard.

 

[bicycle_rack]

What list

"that list" reffered to Parrulos post which had Gilbert Cancellara and Contador no Cav. Based on your attitude ie. the disgusting nature of your post i can not rule out that you are deluded and seeing things but I can assure you that Cavendish does not appear in the post.

Anyway here is why I said Cav is the most marketable, why I am not smoking crack, why i am not an imbecile, and why you are.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/sportspro_blog/usain_bolt_is_the_worlds_most_marketable_athlete/
(the guy in 35th place, how many other cyclists on the list?)

Also take note that I also am not English. Take your trolling, your ridiculous ad hominem and your xenophobia elsewhere. Maybe the mods will comply in that regard.

Interesting list. I didn't realize American basketbal players were so popular worldwide.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

when did hushovd become such an high profile rider worth so much for the sponsors? because i was thinking he was still the same sprinters that can't win a bunch sprint and a classics rider that can't win a monument if his life was on the line. and when did he start having such great influence over the peloton?

Putting the words "World Champion" next to your name mean a lot in any sport. It also guarantees that it will be mentioned and your jersey - with your sponsor's name on it, albeit not with the sponsor's name the primary feature - will be easy to spot, easily identifiable and marketable.

 

[Galic Ho]

What list

"that list" reffered to Parrulos post which had Gilbert Cancellara and Contador no Cav. Based on your attitude ie. the disgusting nature of your post i can not rule out that you are deluded and seeing things but I can assure you that Cavendish does not appear in the post.

Anyway here is why I said Cav is the most marketable, why I am not smoking crack, why i am not an imbecile, and why you are.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/sportspro_blog/usain_bolt_is_the_worlds_most_marketable_athlete/
(the guy in 35th place, how many other cyclists on the list?)

Also take note that I also am not English. Take your trolling, your ridiculous ad hominem and your xenophobia elsewhere. Maybe the mods will comply in that regard.

Wow Hitch. Nice trolling champ. You sure do have a temper don't you? I would advise you to take some proper English instruction because your lacking in key areas. What is a question mark mixed with smilies indicating? That's right, a question. The smilie helps conveys tone. I never stated you were smoking crack. I asked you if you were thinking clearly to come up with such ridiculous notions, hence post in a remark about your thinking that tied in with something ludicrous and ridiculous, aka, are you on drugs! Duh! Because lets be honest, anyone who implies that Cav is the most commercial cyclist above Contador and Evans is probably mentally handicapped or on drugs. Why? For the reasons I posted...economics, not some marketing survey put together by advertisers and marketers (the biggest BS artists you will ever meet). Think I'm wrong champ? Your in uni right...head to the marketing and comms department and you'll soon find out I'm not.

Also I'd hope in future you learn to read context or at least take it into consideration...that part was humour, a concept clearly beyond your grasp of English...I won't make that mistake again.

Mods...dude, your the one manipulating quotes. That's a ban right there. Repeating myself here, but you might want to learn to read English. Please? Context, yet again...you were being reminded that what you replied to Parrulo was utter rubbish regardless of whatever article you want to quote. You quoted Parrulo and I corrected your reply. The list contained the name of riders and their "commercial value." You stated Contador was on top of that list but you thought Cav was above him. I replied back that market forces clearly state you are wrong because contract valuation says otherwise. What riders get paid is the only true measure one had that can be held accountable, is precise and exact in measurement, with the bonus of it being regulated and validated globally. Why? Because it is the money component that is actually paid in full. Marketing is about perception, not reality.

The English part of my post...was regarding Cavendish...facepalm! That was clear, and as I've said to multiple other posters, you've taken something out of context and gottern all huffy and hot headed over being corrected. Low self esteem champ (because this is the only logical reason I can come up with for your outburst) or do you have something against the English? Don't answer that. I don't...I'm Australian...we pick on the English for a laugh, and they rip back on us. Now by all means contact a mod and complain under the misguided notion you've been wronged. You haven't...you simply assumed something incorrectly...twice now. So I do ask, could you please quit trolling and taking things out of context. By all means...misquote me again and complain to the mods, you'll learn something new, that your the one breaking rules.

If you wish to make silly one sentence statements regarding the commerical value of English riders (or any nationality) in future, then be prepared to be corrected, because market value is the only quantifiable and relevant measure available and Cav clearly isn't top dog. As I said...it's quite sad Wigans right now is worth more than he is. Do note...your reply did not address this matter, you merely got upset and provided no counter of susbstance. You weren't being attacked, you were being advised you overlooked the most important measure. Now if you'd like to reply to the cheddar, the real info I posted, and not the humour taken out of context, by all means, let me know.

For the record, I couldn't care less if you are pink, grey, or green in colour or the country you come from. I'm more interested in what you say and the context it's given in.

 

[auscyclefan94]

When Galic Ho disagrees with someone's point of view he really nails them into the ground!

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

we need one of these in our Smilies menu...

a little more Vuelta, a little less Helta Skelta

 

[greenedge]

Couldn't agree more. What is the point of leaving him out anyways. The points will still not go to him ( deadline 15th of August/ start of the Vuelta on the 20th ) and it would anger others. However it will be nice to see Dan Martin then have a team behind him to the hilt.

 

[cineteq]

When Galic Ho disagrees with someone's point of view he really nails them into the ground!

Yeah he's nasty and has no mercy

I wonder if we ever hear from The Hitch again...

 

[Michielveedeebee]

When Galic Ho disagrees with someone's point of view he really nails them into the ground!

klik klak boom

 

[just some guy]

JV doing this to get the UCI to change the system rather than against thor.

I think he would be doing this if it was Contador........ What he is saying is the points leaving the team is stupid and so the WC does not ride sorry Fat Pat but until you change the system here is how it will be.

The ASO and Vuelta folks won't be happy and they are more powerful than the UCI, so if they turn to JV or other team owner why isn't so and so riding and they say because of the points system. The heat will be on the UCI to change the stupid.

JV doing the right thing by the teams but not by thor or the Vuelta imo

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Let's get some discussion started - first of all; who's going to win? Menchov looks pretty good in Burgos - same goes for Rodriguez who's unstopable at the moment. Scarponi looks to be regaining his form, while Nibali does the same working as a domestique for Sagan. Anton looks to be where he was last year at this time - surely he'll be looking for some payback for last year.

Also, who will surprise? Can Cobo put in a good result seing as he's doing well in Burgos. How about Martin? Can Duarte win a stage?

Who else am I forgetting?

Edit: who will be the leaders of Movistar and Vacansoleil (assuming Mosquera isn't starting)?

 

[Havetts]

Anton & Rodriguez will do great with Samu & Menchov closely trailing and Menchov locking it up in the TT's. Anton to be a close 2nd, 3rd for Samu and JRod will fall back with the TT.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Anton & Rodriguez will do great with Samu & Menchov closely trailing and Menchov locking it up in the TT's. Anton to be a close 2nd, 3rd for Samu and JRod will fall back with the TT.

I didn't think Sanchez would go?

 

[Havetts]

Wont he? Mhm..

I totally forgot about Nibali and Scarponi too. I think Anton & Rodriguez will be above the rest in the climbs, Menchov closely trailing, not sure how Nibali will do.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

VeeDeeBee will own the place

 

[Parrulo]

VeeDeeBee will own the place

the Axe will slay every1

 

[icefire]

VeeDeeBee will own the place

As Fränk did last year

 

[Mellow Velo]

Watching Cobo return to his "old form" at Burgos, has me scratching my head as to how many team leaders can have at the Vuelta.
Even more than the mighty Shack tour team seems to be the answer.
Menchov, Sastre, Cobo, Blanco, Duarte (if fit) would seem guarranteed to start.
Who else? Marcel Wyss and young Mr Felline looked very good in Poland.
Valls Ferri, DdLF must be close to certs....

Very, very strong..............on paper.

 

[Swede1]

Watching Cobo return to his "old form" at Burgos, has me scratching my head as to how many team leaders can have at the Vuelta.
Even more than the mighty Shack tour team seems to be the answer.
Menchov, Sastre, Cobo, Blanco, Duarte (if fit) would seem guarranteed to start.
Who else? Marcel Wyss and young Mr Felline looked very good in Poland.
Valls Ferri, DdLF must be close to certs....

Very, very strong..............on paper.

I'm guessing since Duarte is coming off an injury he will pick a couple of stages to try to win and other than that be a helper. Sastre is going to be like in the Giro (he dropped out of both Basque classics). Wyss and Felline may have a chance to take a stage but other than that be helpers. It will end up being just Menchov and Cobo, and Cobo will be like Danielson was in the Tour de France. Just a guess as to how Geox will solve their problem. I most likely am completely wrong though

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

When Galic Ho disagrees with someone's point of view he really nails them into the ground!

I just couldn't get past the repeated suggestions re: english lessons, coming from someone who only knows one of the 2 following words -

your

you're

 

[The Hitch]

When Galic Ho disagrees with someone's point of view he really nails them into the ground!

So if everytime i disagreed with you rather than addressed the point I implied that your judgment is affected by marijuana , said you were stupid and continued that this stupidity comes from you being Australian, would you then also think that Im cool?