Vuelta a España - Stage 20 San Martín de Valdeiglesias - Bola del Mundo 172.1km

[Scirea]

http://www.lavuelta.com/10/es/online/pelidin.html

This is a great move for Gusev and Plaza. Arroyo, Bakelandts and maybe Tschopp and Peraud could try to get a stage win too. Bye bye time boni.

Bye bye time boni? They have 2:40 on the peloton. That won't even be enough for the last mountain, let alone all 3. I don't think we can say for sure they will get home, not even close.

They are good riders (Plaza, Gusev, Bakelants, Arroyo...) but we all know what happens when the peloton get it going.

 

[Scirea]

It would be really interesting to know who does the work in the escape. I would say Cesar Veloso, Cuesta and Sivtsov are just there to help their leader when they catch the break. Gusev is only there to hang onto Plaza and Arroyo. Gallopin is there to secure the mountain jersey for Moncoutie which i think he just did. It should be Gilbert, Hoste and Peraud working for Bakelants and Plaza+Arroyo for the team GC.

 

[The Hitch]

There will be big crowds, guaranteed. I hear this climb has been sold in Spain big time, like nothing since the Angliru.

+ its mere km from Madrid. God knows how 1 million people managed to get to the Zoncolan. God knows how they all get to the Tourmalet, or Aple, but to the Bolla, 2 million people lie within 1 hours drive of it.

Also the situation at the top could get out large crowds as well.

 

[The Hitch]

True, but these huge crowds always make me very nervous when I watch it. Specially the idiots that run along. Soon someone will fall and a rider will fall over him. It just has to happen someday.
I thought the crowds on the Madeleine were waaay too much for example. If a rider wanted to pass another rider it was practically impossible.

Madeline? When. They didnt have big crowds there this year. It was 30km from the finish.

 

[Scirea]

Garmin started to work, they don't want Danielson to lose his top10 spot.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The autobus missed the time limit last year in Sierra Nevada. They just changed the time limit.

No they didn't - Greipel was penalised 25 points and lost the green jersey for a few days to Valverde.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Looks like Moncoutie's mountain jersey is secure now

Also, it's raining

 

[icefire]

No they didn't - Greipel was penalised 25 points and lost the green jersey for a few days to Valverde.

They were out of the time limit. Almost one third of the peloton was there. The organiser decided to keep them in the race applying penalties in the points classification as specified in UCI rules for these cases.

 

[Scirea]

Poor Bakelants already punctured twice. Altough i think it's better now and later. He is still in the front group.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

They were out of the time limit. Almost one third of the peloton was there. The organiser decided to keep them in the race applying penalties in the points classification as specified in UCI rules for these cases.

Yes, and look through my point again.

Gilbert has 100 points. If he takes both intermediate sprints he will have 108 points.

Cavendish has 136 points. If he is docked 25 points for missing the time limit, he will have 111 points.

Hence, Gilbert will be only 3 points off the green jersey.

However, this is contingent on both Cavendish and Farrar being in the autobus, thus both being penalised.

 

[The Hitch]

Yes, and look through my point again.

Gilbert has 100 points. If he takes both intermediate sprints he will have 108 points.

Cavendish has 136 points. If he is docked 25 points for missing the time limit, he will have 111 points.

Hence, Gilbert will be only 3 points off the green jersey.

However, this is contingent on both Cavendish and Farrar being in the autobus, thus both being penalised.

And its unlikely to mean much anyway, considering what tomorows outcome is very very very likely to be.

 

[icefire]

And its unlikely to mean much anyway, considering what tomorows outcome is very very very likely to be.

Same as last year: the man in green will get it. A different man this year, though

 

[maltiv]

How many climbing points are rewarded at the last climb?

 

[icefire]

how many climbing points are rewarded at the last climb?

15, 10, 6, 4, 2

 

[Scirea]

How many climbing points are rewarded at the last climb?

20 points for the winner

 

[Scirea]

15, 10, 6, 4, 2

One of the live coverages wrote it will be 20 today. Don't know which one.

 

[roundabout]

20-15-10-6-4-2 in the Vuelta rulebook

 

[icefire]

One of the live coverages wrote it will be 20 today. Don't know which one.

It's the highest climb of the race, so it's very likely they give more points than in the other MTFs

 

[Scirea]

Finally Katusha realized this break is not good for them and sent their team to the front. They are really slow with the head.

 

[Scirea]

Finally Katusha realized this break is not good for them and sent their team to the front. They are really slow with the head.

Slow with the head, fast with the legs. Gap is down to 3:30 already.

 

[theswordsman]

From Biciciclismo:
mountain points

In the third port is divided 3-2-1 points in the first 10-6-4-2-1 and 20-15-10-6-4-2 Ball World.

En el puerto de tercera se repartirán 3-2-1 puntos, en los de primera 10-6-4-2-1 y en la Bola del Mundo 20-15-10-6-4-2.

Time bonifications:

As in all stages, except the time trials, today distributed 64 seconds Bonus: 6-4-2 in each of the intermediate sprints, the second at the foot of the Ball of the World, and 20-12-8 on goal.

Como en todas las etapas, salvo las cronos, hoy se repartirán 64 segundos de bonificación: 6-4-2 en cada uno de los esprints intermedios, el segundo al pie de la Bola del Mundo, y 20-12-8 en meta

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=30615

 

[khardung la]

+ its mere km from Madrid. God knows how 1 million people managed to get to the Zoncolan. God knows how they all get to the Tourmalet, or Aple, but to the Bolla, 2 million people lie within 1 hours drive of it.

Just to make your point bigger: it is more like 4 million at 1 hour drive, if you consider that we are 6 million in the the Madrid Province. It is 60 km from the center of Madrid, it takes me 50 minutes to get up there in a saturday. However if we count the people in Segovia, Avila, and even Valladolid, very near also, the potential fans are an enormous number.

A friend just told me that he has never seen so many cyclist getting up there. And that the ski cable lifting pedestrians up there is collapsed.

 

[roundabout]

Eesh, they better fix it or indeed it will be helicopters to get the riders down.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

It would be really interesting to know who does the work in the escape. I would say Cesar Veloso, Cuesta and Sivtsov are just there to help their leader when they catch the break. Gusev is only there to hang onto Plaza and Arroyo. Gallopin is there to secure the mountain jersey for Moncoutie which i think he just did. It should be Gilbert, Hoste and Peraud working for Bakelants and Plaza+Arroyo for the team GC.

Ditto Kadri for Roche.

Good to see Cuesta up there waving the flag for us fourty-somethings.

Any chance that they will let him lead over the Navacerrada as a farewell gift?

 

[roundabout]

I don't think he is retiring yet.