Vuelta a España 2019 stage 7: Onda > Mas de la Costa 183.2km

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What kind of gearing do you use?
I recently did the Zoncolan with granny gears, but I also went to the Basso/Cobo school of seated climbing.
Aru did better than expected after all that talk about his leg hurting because of the TTT crash.
Nice. I would love to have done (do, really, but you get my point) the Zoncolan. I use 50-34 and 12-30, but I'm not doing all that much climbing right now. I used to do 11-32 back when I was going up hills and down hills more often. I think I might need to go even lower than that to attempt the Zoncolan, though. And I actually stand on the pedals a fair bit. What do you use?
 
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Quintana was the strongest today to me. I'm a bit disappointed with roglic, he could attack valverde when he was in trouble but he didn't and waited to beat him in a uphill sprint... And it's impossible to beat valverde in a uphill sprint.

No I think Valverde had that stage under control a long way from the finish. I don't think Roglic could have done any better.
 
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Nice. I would love to have done (do, really, but you get my point) the Zoncolan. I use 50-34 and 12-30, but I'm not doing all that much climbing right now. I used to do 11-32 back when I was going up hills and down hills more often. I think I might need to go even lower than that to attempt the Zoncolan, though. And I actually stand on the pedals a fair bit. What do you use?
I had 34x32 as my smallest gear and climbed the whole central part seated, that's just my climbing style on longer climbs.
Knowing the profile of the climb really helps a lot with the pacing.
 
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Agree with your post but I find it almost sad that those four riders are the big four of this race. I just really cannot get excited about this gc field

I agree in a way, it does seem to be missing a bit of star quality. But still much rather see a competitive 4 way battle of riders with different qualities, than some burly English or Dutch rider dominate a time trial and then grind their way to a dull victory in the mountains.

So who missing..Dumoulin ? He would not have won today and would have waited for the IT and hung on in the mountains
Froome? or Thomas ? They would make it more exciting?

The 4 riders at the top today broke the record set Froome, Contador & Chaves in 2016
There is the World Champion, Roglic who has been marvelous this year , Quintana & Lopez both excellent world top climbers...a good mix

For the love of God enjoy the racing and stop moaning
No matter what happens, who is in the filed, what the stage is like,what the parcours are like, who is in the lead , who wins ...its moan moan moan

These guys go out everyday and risk life and limb and do what is on the very of human endurance and do it so well and the 'fans' on here just moan

a bunch of keyboard *
 
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So who missing..Dumoulin ? He would not have won today and would have waited for the IT and hung on in the mountains
Froome? or Thomas ? They would make it more exciting?

The 4 riders at the top today broke the record set Froome, Contador & Chaves in 2016
There is the World Champion, Roglic who has been marvelous this year , Quintana & Lopez both excellent world top climbers...a good mix

For the love of God enjoy the racing and stop moaning
No matter what happens, who is in the filed, what the stage is like,what the parcours are like, who is in the lead , who wins ...its moan moan moan

These guys go out everyday and risk life and limb and do what is on the very of human endurance and do it so well and the 'fans' on here just moan

a bunch of keyboard *
Bit of a childish over-reaction.

The fact is that the likes of Froome, Yates, Thomas, Bernal, Carapaz, Dumoulin, Pinot, Nibali, Bardet, Landa, Alaphilippe and others are all missing for various reasons.

That's a lot of GT talent and has resulted in a pretty thin field. Though, as said above, it doesn't necessarily mean the race will be less entertaining for it.
 
Bit of a childish over-reaction.

The fact is that the likes of Froome, Yates, Thomas, Bernal, Carapaz, Dumoulin, Pinot, Nibali, Bardet, Landa, Alaphilippe and others are all missing for various reasons.

That's a lot of GT talent and has resulted in a pretty thin field. Though, as said above, it doesn't necessarily mean the race will be less entertaining for it.

But we knew they were missing on day one
what is childish is to keep moaning about who we got at stage 6
 
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It's a bit weird to be trying to stifle discussion about the quality of the field, tbh. It's a factor that's going to be affecting the dynamic of loads of different stages throughout the race.
 
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Here I was hyping Guerreiro and he just imploded today although the signs were there yesterday already. Looking forward to see hum switching to stage hunting mode.
 
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I had 34x32 as my smallest gear and climbed the whole central part seated, that's just my climbing style on longer climbs.
Knowing the profile of the climb really helps a lot with the pacing.
Casper Pedersen said that he had used 34x32 for the last hill.
 
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How strong was the 2012 field behind the top 4? Strength of field is always a difficult one to judge at this stage.

For example, the 2011 Vuelta featured defending champion Vincenzo Nibali, an Igor Antón out to avenge having lost the Vuelta through crashing out the previous year, when many (myself included) believed him to be the favourite, a Joaquím Rodríguez who had only lost out the previous year due to a disastrous TT but was rested and ready and targeting the race, a Michele Scarponi who had podiumed the Giro (was not yet the winner officially), a Van den Broeck who'd narrowly missed the podium in the 2010 Tour, salvaging his season after crashing out of the 2011 one, a two time former winner of the race (at the time) in Denis Menchov, the 2008 Tour winner and somebody who'd podiumed the race multiple times in Carlos Sastre, a Janez Brajkovič that some people still thought would become a star... but all of them either underperformed or turned out to be false hopes.

The 2011 Tour, on the other hand, was lauded by many thanks to its epic finale that meant people forgot that the first two weeks were a pile of steaming manure - and the excitement generated by Schleck, Contador, Evans and Voeckler plus supporting case in the final few days meant people didn't miss the many who crashed out and DNFed so much - van den Broeck, Vinokourov, Wiggins, Brajkovič, Horner, Klöden, Intxausti, Gadret and Poels all involved (on the other hand, the loss of Amets Txurruka in the early part of the race was immediately felt and perhaps explains why week 2 of that race was among the worst raced of all time).

Just listing the number of riders on the startlist with big reputations only takes us so far. At the Vuelta, especially in years where the Worlds is hilly, we've seen plenty of people use 'Worlds warmup' as a ready 'out' for if their form isn't there - take for example Damiano Cunego in 2009. He won on the Alto de Aitana, and looked strong, was in the top 10 overall, but when he had a bad day in the queen stage, he simply let go, came in with the autobus, so he could get in the break a day later, won the stage from that then quit the race, having 'achieved all he needed'. Realistically, he had gone with the GC in mind, but once he realised he wouldn't be able to fight for that, it was better to abandon all GC hope, get another stage win and then prepare for Mendrisio than to fight on, tire himself out and finish 8th. Big guns being eliminated early is always something that happens at Grand Tours (take Dumoulin at the Giro and those 2011 Tour riders as a good example, but we've also seen Nibali DQed from the Vuelta for the team car trying to move him from group to group, Froome and Contador at the 2014 Tour, Valverde breaking his leg in 2017, Quintana losing red and dropping out the next day in 2014 and so on), and is more common at the Vuelta due to its late-season position.

And that 2011 Vuelta that seemed so weak at the time, its podium doesn't seem so weak now that Froome and Wiggins are both Tour winners and Froome has gone on to win 6 GTs (on the road - 7 once that Vuelta is incorporated).
 
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I actually have no complains about the level of the Vuelta. Sure, the depth of the field is not so big, so after the first 6/7 there really isn't much. But does that make the Vuelta any less? No. Because even in studded fields you see lots of favorites fall away or having not good enough form, and you're still stuck with only 4/5 truly contending.
 
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Yes, late to the party. So very happy to see Alejandro get his stage win in the rainbow jersey. This will be a very special stage win for him.
 
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Quintana was the strongest today to me. I'm a bit disappointed with roglic, he could attack valverde when he was in trouble but he didn't and waited to beat him in a uphill sprint... And it's impossible to beat valverde in a uphill sprint.
Nah, Roglic rode perfectly. He will obliterate Bala in the TT and its likely Bala will fade toward the end of the 3 weeks. Roglic needs to keep his powder dry and see where he is vs MAL & Nairo after the TT
 
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Yeah, this website seems to have a ton of problems the last few weeks. Me too. Often brings my Google Chrome to a complete halt.

Can't access the forum right now from my laptop. Just my phone. Getting a 403 error on my laptop. Issue seems to be with Firefox. Tried a different browser and it works here.
 
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