Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 6 (Biescas - Aramón Formigal, 146.6 km)

[Mayomaniac]

Rabofail back in force then.

Where they ever really gone?

 

[jmdirt]

Sick Roglic might come if he was too cold for a long time. Carapaz once again his kryptonite.

Is there more virus and bacteria in people who get cold?

 

[Forever The Best]

Nah, just the misleadingly easy-looking profile meant Kuss clocked off early for the day.

It wasn't a steep finishing climb, so probably he took it easy.

 

[Forever The Best]

Carapaz is one of those riders that NEVER looks back when he attacks. My opinion on him has changed so much in the past two years. His shenanigans in the 2018 were really annoying, but he's winning me over.

I get the feeling he is like a silent killer. Just focuses on the job he has. A huge change from 2018 Giro indeed.

 

[Descender]

I don't know if the profiles are really deceiving and it's very irregular despite the easy average gradient?

But I think it's mostly been twice a super weak defenging team along with climbs easy enough that riders aren't afraid to throw in the gauntlet

I can think of a couple of reasons, like the irregular asphalt and the wind exposure at the top that makes it a kind of baby Ventoux. But yeah mostly I think it's just been the circumstances being right.

 

[Eclipse]

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I can think of a couple of reasons, like the irregular asphalt and the wind exposure at the top that makes it a kind of baby Ventoux. But yeah mostly I think it's just been the circumstances being right.

Someone much more knowledgeable than me on the history of specific climbs can probably give a much more informed opinion, but I always wonder how much the way a climb is ridden begins to become self fulfilling.

The more times a stage involving Formigal provides action and gaps the more times riders race it expecting opportunity and jumping when the chance presents itself etc.

 

[Ripper]

Is there more virus and bacteria in people who get cold?

Not sure what you mean. A cold is virus, but then sometimes people just catch a chill/get hypothermic.

 

[Koronin]

Well no Movistar documentary this year due to Covid, otherwise they were planning on doing another one this year. If they can get figure out how to do one next year they want to try again for another one. I'm sure you'd see something very different from last year. As I've said you have 3 leaders who actually get along with each other and are friends. It's possible that Mas knew Soler had better legs today and told him to go. Who knows. The closer both Soler and Mas are to the time of the leader the better for team. They are also both still learning. One other thing is I do not know if Mas typically has issues in cold/rainy weather or not. It's possible. He is from Mallorca, although he does have a place in Andorra.

 

[Leinster]

Jackets not causing problems only in the Giro but apparently in Vuelta, too. But Roglič remains serene and has a positive attitude in the interview:

Vuelta op zijn kop: Roglic verliest rode trui na geklungel met regenjack

De kopman van Jumbo-Visma verspilt zoveel energie dat hij op de slotklim breekt. Richard Carapaz is de nieuwe leider en Jon Izagirre wint de rit.

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Ineos and Castelli’s new, patented, GT-winning, Marginal Rains jackets with their innovative Easy-Arm technology that allows you to pull them on over your head whilst still reading your power meter, will be available for Christmas.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Last 5 kms of last mountain have been a beautiful chaos.

Just like we found in the Pyrenées last month, racing is vastly improved by the removal of Sepp Kuss from it.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Just like we found in the Pyrenées last month, racing is vastly improved by the removal of Sepp Kuss from it.

You really dont like this guy, do you?..

Anyways, 2016 had nothing to do with the Formigal IMO, that would have happened on any other mediocre climb as well. But is it indeed quite funny how this climb somehow founds a way to be relevant to the GC when it really shouldn't.

 

[Koronin]

Mas said he just didn't have the legs today. He also said he's happy with the team results from today.

Formigal yet again delivers an interesting day.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

You really dont like this guy, do you?..

Anyways, 2016 had nothing to do with the Formigal IMO, that would have happened on any other mediocre climb as well. But is it indeed quite funny how this climb somehow founds a way to be relevant to the GC when it really shouldn't.

Look at the mountain stages of the Tour and tell me I'm wrong. All the best mountain stages were the ones where Sepp was removed from the equation.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Look at the mountain stages of the Tour and tell me I'm wrong. All the best mountain stages were the ones where Sepp was removed from the equation.

I mean you're right, but along with the Kuss-meme, it seems like you have no love for this poor American kid Seppi

 

[Leinster]

You really dont like this guy, do you?..

Anyways, 2016 had nothing to do with the Formigal IMO, that would have happened on any other mediocre climb as well. But is it indeed quite funny how this climb somehow founds a way to be relevant to the GC when it really shouldn't.

Maybe it works because it’s a mediocre climb. 2016 Sky would have all been on the front from the start if it was a big day with a major climb like the Angliru at the finish.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Maybe it works because it’s a mediocre climb. 2016 Sky would have all been on the front from the start if it was a big day with a major climb like the Angliru at the finish.

Nah cause then you can use that argument for a climb like Orcieres-Merlette, Macugnaga, Montervergine etc. where jackshit happens cause climb is too easy to do anything. I think today had to do with circumstances, normally you dont have this cold weather in La Vuelta and 2016 was just weird and fantastic at the same time

 

[BlueRoads]

You really dont like this guy, do you?..

But it shows her high respect for him, because obviously he's more capable of changing the outcome of a stage than Rohan Dennis.

 

[richwallone]

Mareczko should have a camera with him the entire Angliru. Box Office.

He's gonna have a tough time to get over that one... Hope he makes it in time limit.. Fingers crossed for him... I really want him to win a stage

 

[Biomiha]

Is there more virus and bacteria in people who get cold?

You don't get more but with the same amount of virus or bacteria you are more likely to get ill because you are worse at fending it off if you get hypothermic. That's why most languages associate the word 'cold' with a respiratory viral infection.

 

[Breh]

Why? Just out of curiosity. I'm sure there's lots of evidence to support taking the leader's jersey whenever you can, and vice versa. Or do you see today as just a one-off b/c of the weather?

Froome usually had the yellow jersey in his possession by the first rest day. Thomas waited a bit longer to take yellow but GVA was kind of a non-factor anyways.
In his 2017 Vuelta win, Froome had the red jersey for 19stages. In the 2017 Tour Sky had the yellow jersey for 19stages.

I don't think the teams really care.

 

[jmdirt]

You don't get more but with the same amount of virus or bacteria you are more likely to get ill because you are worse at fending it off if you get hypothermic. That's why most languages associate the word 'cold' with a respiratory viral infection.

The correct answer is no. In most languages there's a big bad wolf too.

 

[Leinster]

Froome usually had the yellow jersey in his possession by the first rest day. Thomas waited a bit longer to take yellow but GVA was kind of a non-factor anyways.
In his 2017 Vuelta win, Froome had the red jersey for 19stages. In the 2017 Tour Sky had the yellow jersey for 19stages.

I don't think the teams really care.

I think it would be more true to say “Froome tended to wait until the first major mountain stage to take the lead.” The exception to that was 2017 when G won the “prologue.”

Teams who are set up to win the Tour are usually happy to have the leader’s jersey, but when they have it they’re expected to defend it, and that can be quite a workload for domestiques. It’s why Astana were happy to let Gallopin take yellow for a day in 2014. Lemond took yellow “too early” in 1991, (after the ITT on stage 8) and his team, who picked a lot of climbers for the mountain stages at the back end of the Tour, had to ride to control flat stages in Norther France early in the 2nd week, and by the time the mountains rolled around they were spent. Lemond was on his own from day 1 in the Pyrenees and his race was over.

 

[jmdirt]

Not sure what you mean. A cold is virus, but then sometimes people just catch a chill/get hypothermic.

The insinuation was that because he might have gotten cold, now he will get sick. If you don't have a virus/bacteria cold temperatures don't make you sick.

 

[Ripper]

The insinuation was that because he might have gotten cold, now he will get sick. If you don't have a virus/bacteria cold temperatures don't make you sick.

True! Although if you get cold enough, it can be quite the shock to your system, and make you more susceptible to getting sick. Also, some people don't recover very well from getting really cold.

 

[Koronin]

True! Although if you get cold enough, it can be quite the shock to your system, and make you more susceptible to getting sick. Also, some people don't recover very well from getting really cold.

Also cold is relative as to what temperature you start feeling cold at, as much of that depends on where you live. If you live in colder climates you will start feeling cold at a lower temperature than someone who lives in a warmer climate.