Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 6 (Biescas - Aramón Formigal, 146.6 km)

[titan31]

Bernal is still recuparating from his back pains but let's imagine that he can come back then it would be: Bernal, Thomas, Tao, Dennis, Ganna, Carapaz, Danny, Richie,

That's still against Roglic, Dumoulin, Kruijswijk, Kuss, Bennett, WVA, Martin, Gesink I guess which is say is a stronger team.

 

[Eclipse]

A good ride by Grosschartner by the way coming in almost 20s ahead of Roglic

 

[Escarabajo]

I heard that Froome arrived in the Gruppetto laughing his a$$ off!!!

 

[gunara]

Just thinking . . . what kind of monstrosity of a dominating team will Ineos bring to the 2021 TDF? Maybe Bernal will be 2nd or 3rd domestique.

Still may not be strong enough against team Tadej

 

[SafeBet]

Also, can't wait to watch the next Netflix documentary on Movistar.

 

[Escarabajo]

Looking at the stage results Team Jumbo-Visma really desintegrated big time. And this was not the queen stage or anything.

 

[RedheadDane]

I thought he is still signed with EF for 2021???

Exactly.

 

[Eclipse]

Looking at the stage results Team Jumbo-Visma really desintegrated big time. And this was not the queen stage or anything.

Well we know they had to get Roglic back from the wrong side of the split which is what caused them to lose half the team since the peloton was pushing on and at one point Roglic seemed to decide to ditch his helpers and do the rest solo.

Still unclear what caused the split though. If it was Ineos distancing them on the descent then I guess the effort will have been harder for longer which may be why they fell apart so badly, but if it was just a personal issue for Roglic that Movistar decided to push during I'm surprised they weren't able to recover a bit more cohesively.

 

[Anderis]

I thought he is still signed with EF for 2021???

It hardly means anything these days.

Spoiler

Ask: Daniel Martinez, Michael Woods, Luis Villalobos, Kristoffer Halvorsen.

 

[RedheadDane]

It hardly means anything these days.

Spoiler

Ask: Daniel Martinez, Michael Woods, Luis Villalobos, Kristoffer Halvorsen.

Well...

Spoiler

Villalobos' situation was... a little different. And I think, I'm not allowed to say anymore...

 

[Anderis]

I was totally not aware of what happened to Villalobos until I googled it.

 

[Biomiha]

Roglič said he had some issues with his rain jacket on the penultimate climb, which meant they (JV) lost touch with the peloton on the descent. Said he paid the price for the mistake on the last climb of the day. I'm guessing opinions will be split over whether he did well to limit his losses or is too tired to be in contention for GC.

 

[Red Rick]

162	SALMON Martin	Team Sunweb			25:58
163	MARECZKO Jakub	CCC Team			36:33

Man

Myth

Legend.

 

[johnymax]

Jackets not causing problems only in the Giro but apparently in Vuelta, too. But Roglič remains serene and has a positive attitude in the interview:

Vuelta op zijn kop: Roglic verliest rode trui na geklungel met regenjack

De kopman van Jumbo-Visma verspilt zoveel energie dat hij op de slotklim breekt. Richard Carapaz is de nieuwe leider en Jon Izagirre wint de rit.

nos.nl

 

[Biomiha]

Jackets not causing problems only in the Giro but apparently in Vuelta, too. But Roglič remains serene and has a positive attitude in the interview:

Vuelta op zijn kop: Roglic verliest rode trui na geklungel met regenjack

De kopman van Jumbo-Visma verspilt zoveel energie dat hij op de slotklim breekt. Richard Carapaz is de nieuwe leider en Jon Izagirre wint de rit.

nos.nl

Oddly, he doesn't seem to be feeling the pressure of GC. He said in one of the pre-race interviews that he's here to race and enjoy himself.

 

[Red Rick]

The entire equation depends on how big the gap was that Roglic had to close down etc. Also if he had problems with his rain jacket he probably got too damn cold.

 

[Ktarie]

A good ride by Grosschartner by the way coming in almost 20s ahead of Roglic

True! He said shortly before the Vuelta that he would always prefer cold and fog to the typical heat during a Vuelta in august/september. He now confirms that too.

So far, I'm happy for him. As a more "punchy climber", the stages meet him so far and he rides without pressure. He and the team just want to see where his legs can take him.

 

[TomLPC]

Mareczko should have a camera with him the entire Angliru. Box Office.

 

[Luthor]

Sick Roglic might come if he was too cold for a long time. Carapaz once again his kryptonite.

 

[Eclipse]

Oddly, he doesn't seem to be feeling the pressure of GC. He said in one of the pre-race interviews that he's here to race and enjoy himself.

I guess having won it before takes the edge off really. They missed the seasons main goal but he's won so much that while this would be a nice consolation prize it's probably not going to really feel like it (re)defines the season.

 

[JosefK]

Looking at the stage results Team Jumbo-Visma really desintegrated big time. And this was not the queen stage or anything.

Yes, I think the TDF is still in their legs, and the trajectory is downward. It's OK, they've won a stage at the Vuelta and were strong in France. It's cycling. Their time for this season has come and gone. They'll be back next year to make things interesting.

 

[Rackham]

I guess having won it before takes the edge off really. They missed the seasons main goal but he's won so much that while this would be a nice consolation prize it's probably not going to really feel like it (re)defines the season.

We have no idea what happened, why Kuss lost so much time, why Roglic had to bridge the gap himself after the descent or why Enric Mas was also totally off form.

Wait & see. This is a long race.

 

[Descender]

Formigal is such a random climb to always deliver.

 

[Red Rick]

Formigal is such a random climb to always deliver.

I don't know if the profiles are really deceiving and it's very irregular despite the easy average gradient?

But I think it's mostly been twice a super weak defenging team along with climbs easy enough that riders aren't afraid to throw in the gauntlet

 

[Mayomaniac]

True! He said shortly before the Vuelta that he would always prefer cold and fog to the typical heat during a Vuelta in august/september. He now confirms that too.

So far, I'm happy for him. As a more "punchy climber", the stages meet him so far and he rides without pressure. He and the team just want to see where his legs can take him.

He's also a decent TTer. I'm happy for him, I managed to talk a bit with his father when he and the rest of his family came to support him at the start of the 2017 Piancavallo stage.