Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2022, stage 17: Aracena - Monasterio de Tentudía, 162.3k

[DNP-Old]

UAE has to be the dumbest team in the world, man.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Remco looked really strong. Good to see Mas attacking several times, he will keep trying.

 

[houtdffan]

Not sure Rog would have taken time today. Remco looked very strong. Didn't seem tired at the line

 

[Escarabajo]

As expected for this stage. Nothing was going to happen. Just follow wheels. If anything is going to happen will be in the next 3 stages. They are all trap stages.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Marc Soler has now finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did the camera man die?

I've rewatched it, and I think he survived the fall, but he did drop his glasses and his prosthetic hand.

Well done by Urán who joins the club of riders with stage wins in all GTs. It's only his 14th win since his first in the Tour de Suisse 15 years ago.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

As expected for this stage. Nothing was going to happen. Just follow wheels. If anything is going to happen will be in the next 3 stages. They are all trap stages.

Was a solid stage in the end - best breakaway battle of the race and a sprinkling of GC action, certainly exceeded my expectations.

 

[Escarabajo]

BTW, if Lopez has the form it will be fun. Otherwise, I am not sure if anything is going to happen. Mas, Carlos and Ayuso might as well sign a paper of truce. They are all happy where they are. Almeida and Lopez are not.

 

[Tim Cahill]

That was Fleche levels of exciting last 5 minutes

 

[Gratemans]

Remco is ready to let everyone but Mas go, but nobody dares...

I think you're underestimating just how hard MAL was pulling to minimise losing time on Almeida. The tempo already was pretty high.
Great win for Uran. Not a spectacular rider by any means but a very nice dude.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Interesting fight for the stage and Mick Jagger 2.0 took it. Remco seemingly undroppable today, Mas' accelerations had no effect at all. The race for victory seems almost over TBH and only something special on Saturday can change it. BTW Almeida trolling Ayuso was something, he was riding so hard that it seemed he was about to take the victory today.

 

[carolina]

Almeida wanted to gain time to Arensman and superman. It was a smart move.

 

[yaco]

I suggested earlier in the thread that Craddock needed 2 minutes before the last climb which was just about right - He needed to get away earlier before the climb but when teams have multiple riders then it's a difficult task to get a big enough break.

 

[Gargamel35]

You do really know nothing about cycling if you say such things.

Do you think Roglic was ever dominant ? think twice.

• In 2020 Vuelta, if you remove bonus time, Roglic wouldnt even be 1st if not for the ITT. This is NOT being dominant.
• In 2019 Vuelta, if you remove ITT, Roglic has only 1 min on 39 yo Valverde, 45 seconds on Quintana
• In 2021, except for Lagos de Covadonga (where Bernal sacrificed himself), he never took more than few seconds on Mas.

Roglic is likeable due to his never give up style, and because he has sometimes smart strategies, but he was never really dominant in a GT. Maybe he was never in top form, ok, but his norm is being barely better if not equal to his opponents.
W1 Remco crushed them.
W2 Remco lost time probably due to the fall, he was still as good as Roglic on Nevada.

I was talking about Vuelta 2022, so all your writing at the start is false.

Remco lost time in w2 and would keep loosing time, it was clear.

 

[Oldermanish]

Interesting fight for the stage and Mick Jagger 2.0 took it. Remco seemingly undroppable today, Mas' accelerations had no effect at all. The race for victory seems almost over TBH and only something special on Saturday can change it. BTW Almeida trolling Ayuso was something, he was riding so hard that it seemed he was about to take the victory today.

Mas attacks were short, weak and actually seemed to negate all of Movistar's work. Yawn.

 

[staubsauger]

Almeida wanted to gain time to Arensman and superman. It was a smart move.

Which obviously worked out with Arensman falling out of the back and López being forced to work.

 

[groogster]

Interesting fight for the stage and Mick Jagger 2.0 took it. Remco seemingly undroppable today, Mas' accelerations had no effect at all. The race for victory seems almost over TBH and only something special on Saturday can change it. BTW Almeida trolling Ayuso was something, he was riding so hard that it seemed he was about to take the victory today.

Very smart move if you ask me. Almeida isn’t a threat for Top3 and he knew that Evenepoel and Mas would let him go. The guy that had to react was MAL which he did and in the end cost him some seconds, including to Ayuso. Nothing to do with trolling but clever and basic race cycling

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Very smart move if you ask me. Almeida isn’t a threat for Top3 and he knew that Evenepoel and Mas would let him go. The guy that had to react was MAL which he did and in the end cost him some seconds, including to Ayuso. Nothing to do with trolling but clever and basic race cycling

What exactly was Almeida fighting for? 6th in GC? Big effort for marginal gains. It ended up well but provoking Lopez to react was actually risky, it could've ended up the other way around (Ayuso with problems to follow and no Almeida to help), you never know.

 

[search]

Was a solid stage in the end - best breakaway battle of the race and a sprinkling of GC action, certainly exceeded my expectations.

yes, and looking at tomorrow's finish now, this also wasn't the easiest MTF

 

[red_flanders]

The sad thing is that Roglic might have taken another 10 seconds on this finish.

Because they'd have let him in the break? Oh. You're saying he'd have gotten 10 in a sprint from the group? I'd have been surprised if he could have even held on to the group.

 

[yaco]

What exactly was Almeida fighting for? 6th in GC? Big effort for marginal gains. It ended up well but provoking Lopez to react was actually risky, it could've ended up the other way around (Ayuso with problems to follow and no Almeida to help), you never know.

UAE has not ridden as a team all year, except for when Pogacar is racing - It's a dysfunctional team.

 

[yaco]

Because they'd have let him in the break?

Jumbo may have controlled the break.

 

[red_flanders]

Jumbo may have controlled the break.

Meh. Woulda coulda shoulda. Roglič unfortunately crashed and would have had trouble hanging on to the group. Crash was his own fault. That's racing.

 

[groogster]

What exactly was Almeida fighting for? 6th in GC? Big effort for marginal gains. It ended up well but provoking Lopez to react was actually risky, it could've ended up the other way around (Ayuso with problems to follow and no Almeida to help), you never know.

I think that UAE, Almeida and Ayuso will try to do similar moves tomorrow and if it fits Saturday. Almeida it’s in a good position to do it again. Evenepoel and Mas won’t bother so why not?

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Am only just now catching up watching some replays - awesome, Rigoberto!

After yesteerday's devastating loss of Roglic I was feeling pretty bummed (was already bummed when Alaphilippe had to abandon), so am glad an old-timer like Uran who has been around for a while won. For me anyway it adds some sense of stability in this rather unstable Vuelta.