Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 16: Liencres Playa - Bejes, 120.1k

[RedheadDane]

I don't know if you are agreeing or disagreeing?

I'm pointing out that a rider can still "win for someone", even if the win - obviously - doesn't improve the person's situation.

But they didn't tell Jonas i guess

He literally said they'd gotten the good news during his international interview.

 

[movingtarget]

Looks like Jumbo are reshuffling their cards as Vingegaard has improved in the second half of the race or maybe that was always the plan and it was just a bonus to have the other two in the top three. Either way, Jumbo is winning all three grand tours this season. Has that been done before ?

 

[AmRacer]

Rumours of Roglic moving to another team are skyrocketting

To the Retirement team?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Can Vingegaard stop trying to sabotage my CQ Game team?!!!?

 

[tobydawq]

Rumours of Roglic moving to another team are skyrocketting

In the Spanish article that was linked in the Roglic thread earlier today, he was not dismissive at all about seeing himself in different colors - probably not next year, though.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Jonas: I wanted to win for my best friend today.

Jonas: Tomorrow, I am going to attack the leader of the race, my teammate, for Tupac and Biggie.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Rumours of Roglic moving to another team are skyrocketting

Hopefully he will.

Good luck to Primoz facing peak Vingegaard and Pogacar in July in 2024. It won't be close, but hey, you gotta try.

 

[nightowl]

Rumours of Roglic moving to another team are skyrocketting

I would say he should go to Ineos but the thought of them shutting down action and setting up a train for mountain sprint at literally every race he enters makes me physically ill

 

[noob]

Both Rogla and Kuss were stronger than Vinge on Saturday stage but sit back and did not respond until last km.

I admit that Vinge looked much better today than on Saturday but I still have doubts that Vinge was teams only decision from a get go.

Not their only decision, just probably the first of 3.

 

[Red Rick]

Forum is better than Vuelta

 

[Nick2413]

Fine for Vingegaard to attack but Kuss would’ve lost a lot less time if he tried to follow. Looked like JV wouldn’t let him ride and help the other GC contenders who were all seemingly looking at him to set the pace.

If JV are going to attack themselves then they should at least let all 3 of them go for it, which it didn’t really look like here.

 

[saunaking]

Remco pretty lame coming in with Groves.
He gonna have some explaining after dropping tomorrow

 

[ontheroad]

I think this makes Vingegaard favourite now but the dynamic between Roglic and the rest of the team will be interesting. Is he being held back or has he simply not got the legs to attack. Either way he has barely showed himself for this entire race. Kuss showed some vulnerability today and its still not a given that he finishes on the podium as I think he is the most likely of the 3 Jumbos to crack completely.

 

[saunaking]

And now you're a mind reader. Gotcha

don't underestimate my powerz

 

[Valv.Piti]

I would say he should go to Ineos but the thought of them shutting down action and setting up a train for mountain sprint at literally every race he enters makes me physically ill

They are facing UAE and Jumbo. Their train won't go anywhere and Kuss destroys it, and if he doesn't, Jonas and Teddy will.

 

[AmRacer]

Hopefully he will.

Good luck to Primoz facing peak Vingegaard and Pogacar in July in 2024. It won't be close, but hey, you gotta try.

Rogla and Remco battle for third.

 

[noob]

Obviously of course if you have the legs you'll go for the win if you're Jonas. Anything else would be stupid. It's just boring to watch for me as a viewer. And I was a Jonas fan until he became the new Pog.

 

[JosefK]

Tomorrow should be fascinating.

 

[Miha81]

Forum is better than Vuelta

Ten times better 😂🤣

 

[Gigs_98]

Do I think that if Vingegaard wants to attack Kuss to win the Vuelta he should do so? Yeah, sure.

Do I think it would be a lot more elegant to take the opportunity to gift the gc win to an extremely loyal superdom. Absolutely yes.

 

[nightowl]

They are facing UAE and Jumbo. Their train won't go anywhere and Kuss destroys it, and if he doesn't, Jonas and Teddy will.

Well sure but any race either of those two aren’t in/aren’t in top form it’ll be a train plus sprint

 

[Blobs]

Both Rogla and Kuss were stronger than Vinge on Saturday stage but sit back and did not respond until last km.

I admit that Vinge looked much better today than on Saturday but I still have doubts that Vinge was teams only decision from a get go.

But Roglic basically never attacks from more than 1K out. At least not successfully. It would be strange if he suddenly did it when a teammate is struggling.

Vingegaard does it often and very successfully.

 

[ice&fire]

Kuss saying on TV the plan was to try to win the stage with Roglic. Looks like a 1-2 where 2 never happened.

 

[saunaking]

Remco's gonna be pissed when Jonas gets the polka dots too

 

[Miha81]

Remco pretty lame coming in with Groves.
He gonna have some explaining after dropping tomorrow

He wanted to reaffirm that he is not GC threat so he will be allowed in breakaway 😉