Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 16: Liencres Playa - Bejes, 120.1k

[EddyMazzoleni]

The profiles shown in here do not coincide with the ones from Procyclingstats. It is only 4.9 Km. might as well post that. It is hard to pick which is the section that they will ride.

I don't think ASO has the ability to teleport a full peloton half-way up a climb yet

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It helps if you read the text in the OP.

Also, PCS climb profiles are about as accurate as the GPS at the Giro.

 

[Escarabajo]

It helps if you read the text in the OP.

Thanks. I know the profiles are averages but at least they give you an idea for the exact distance.
I read so many profiles when I open the thread that I get confused. First 4.9 kilometer. Ok.

 

[Lequack]

I fear this will really wear Kuss down in his third GT. So he will crack here or the day after.

Who is going to wear him down though? UAE can't with Ayuso or Soler, and naither can Mas. So unless his own teammates attack him, he should be fine.

 

[houtdffan]

Remco go for the win?

Great chance to gain valuable points on Groves. Should have went for the intermediate yesterday

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Remco go for the win?

Great chance to gain valuable points on Groves. Should have went for the intermediate yesterday

Maybe all is a part of Remco's big plan. Saving energy on most difficult mountain stages, losing loads of time & pretending to be a stage-hunter, taking back some time in breakaways and then absolutely killing it on stage 20 (Grischa: oh wait, that breakaway guy is uncontrollable today!)

 

[CyclistAbi]

Likely van Aert told him that, due to JV not taking him to the Vuelta.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Nature Boy's going to be in his bag on the Angliru.

 

[saunaking]

Remco was planning on taking a rest day tomorrow because he wants to win on Angliru

someone needs to tell Remco that in interviews he's just supposed to say 'We'll take it day by day", not basically give the full details of tactics for the next few days

 

[hayneplane]

Who is going to wear him down though? UAE can't with Ayuso or Soler, and naither can Mas. So unless his own teammates attack him, he should be fine.

I get the feeling that Vingegaard has been itching to attack and has been jumping on the moves by UAE with suspiciously high enthusiasm and would love to be able to mark Ayuso or Soler and see them persist with the move to try and get a podium so he can ‘accidentally’ gain the time he would need to win.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I get the feeling that Vingegaard has been itching to attack and has been jumping on the moves by UAE with suspiciously high enthusiasm and would love to be able to mark Ayuso or Soler and see them persist with the move to try and get a podium so he can ‘accidentally’ gain the time he would need to win.

If his radio and wattometer malfunction then who knows what can happen on Angliru.

 

[glassmoon]

A hockey stick with a scenery? …not great, not terrible

 

[HelloDolly]

Remco was planning on taking a rest day tomorrow because he wants to win on Angliru

JV will want the Angliru , either Primos or Jonas..after all they need some motivation and challenges in this race

Whatever complaining Remco is doing about being let in the break there will be more after this stage as he wont get much freedom

 

[Unchained]

Remco go for the win?

Great chance to gain valuable points on Groves. Should have went for the intermediate yesterday

I watched the short recap yesterday w Johan Bruyneel..I agreed completely with his conclusion.. which is totally different from my opinion. Don't care as much about GC outcome.. but would like to see Remco make a statement.. Overall Kuss is my preference but it's going to be hard on him

 

[Rob5091]

Covid takes out a rider -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...the-vuelta-a-espana-after-positive-covid-test
The awful luck of Team Jayco AlUla at the 2023 Vuelta a Espana has continued, even on the second rest day they have been affected as Welay Hagos Berhe withdraws the race.

"Another one bites the dust," announces an official statement from the Team Jayco AlUla Twitter account. "Unfortunately Hagos Berhe will not start tomorrow’s stage 16 after testing positive for COVID."

 

[houtdffan]

I watched the short recap yesterday w Johan Bruyneel..I agreed completely with his conclusion.. which is totally different from my opinion. Don't care as much about GC outcome.. but would like to see Remco make a statement.. Overall Kuss is my preference but it's going to be hard on him

honestly, Remco could make top 5 yet, which would be a beyond amazing performance given his meltdown.

Top 5 with 4 stage winds, along with mountains and maybe points jerseys would be something to be proud of

 

[Unchained]

honestly, Remco could make top 5 yet, which would be a beyond amazing performance given his meltdown.

Top 5 with 4 stage winds, along with mountains and maybe points jerseys would be something to be proud of

The premise of Bruyneel's opinion is stay in control, don't try to do things super human because of all the mental damage that can happen as you fall from the sky.
I personally didn't see much down side trying to take back minutes everyday from the front, from a break, aggressive, aggressive, aggressive and put intelligent and controlled away for another day.

 

[yaco]

Covid takes out a rider -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...the-vuelta-a-espana-after-positive-covid-test
The awful luck of Team Jayco AlUla at the 2023 Vuelta a Espana has continued, even on the second rest day they have been affected as Welay Hagos Berhe withdraws the race.

"Another one bites the dust," announces an official statement from the Team Jayco AlUla Twitter account. "Unfortunately Hagos Berhe will not start tomorrow’s stage 16 after testing positive for COVID."

Jayco's Vuelta was over after five minutes when six of the riders crashed in the TTT and they had sickness in the team during the first week.

 

[Berniece]

JV will want the Angliru , either Primos or Jonas..after all they need some motivation and challenges in this race

Whatever complaining Remco is doing about being let in the break there will be more after this stage as he wont get much freedom

I can see Remco win it from the favourites group

 

[CyclistAbi]

Well, winning on Angliru. All do want to say that. So likely the strongest rider to win it and no gifts involved. It's too hard tomorrow, not to try it.

As for today. All riders want to win today and no gifts involved. It's too easy today, not to try it.

 

[Blanco]

honestly, Remco could make top 5 yet, which would be a beyond amazing performance given his meltdown.

Top 5 with 4 stage winds, along with mountains and maybe points jerseys would be something to be proud of

Yeah, one could dream...

 

[TourOfSardinia]

About that 2012 Collado de la Hoz

Alberto Contador’s spectacular attack in the 2012 Vuelta on the Collado de la Hoz was in fact a re-run of an attack he made as an amateur.

Contador’s Fuente Dé attack: History repeating itself | Cyclingnews.com

Pistolero attacked on same climb when amateur in 2002

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[topcat]

Should Jumbo carry police batons to beat the breakaway riders with?

 

[ice&fire]

Should Jumbo carry police batons to beat the breakaway riders with?

I'd rather balance the situation giving police batons to eeryone else

 

[dercuforever]

Finally a GT mountain stage perfect for Iván Sosa!

What do you mean he's not here?

the first 2 hours at 50kph on the flat would sadly crush his dreams.