Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 17: Ribadesella/Ribadeseya - Altu de l’Angliru, 124.4k

[ontheroad]

Marc Soler doing Marc Soler things.........only to eventually lose 10 minutes!

 

[Ripper]

Remco said he wasn't allowed to go in Sunday's stage with Vingegaard policing him, and treating him as a GC treat on a day where Jumbo weren't going for the stage win (but were obviously going to allow a non-dangerous break on the road).

So that story seems to be true (applying it on Sunday's stage).

What he can't be entitled about and is actually a bit laughable, is bleeding extra time yesterday, and believing this will be a reason JV won't chase him today on the road to Angliru: Ofcourse they will chase him if they want the stage, irregardless of him bleeding extra time or not, because even if he wins the stage, it won't be by much, so that won't make any difference for GC.

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The fact that he doesn't seem to fully appreciate that today would be a day Dumbo-Jiz would most definitely would want the win is somewhat, immature or naive? Or perhaps just a bit dense. Might even be knucklehead territory

 

[noob]

If Soler wins this stage I'm gonna be in awe. Really shocked if it would happen though

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Soler will die brutally in no man‘s land.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Soler Andy Schlecking?

 

[Berniece]

Secretly knows he cant win so wrapping up the blue dots

How so is it a secret? He literally said this in an interview.

"I'm going for the blue dots jersey, tomorrow I'll attack to secure it, I probably won't win because Jumbo might want to go for it."

 

[Berflamand]

So Soler is going to be alone in the valley with Remco/Cattaneo in front of him and Gesink/Van Baarle behind him. Good luck Marc!

 

[saunaking]

Remco said he wasn't allowed to go in Sunday's stage with Vingegaard policing him, and treating him as a GC treat on a day where Jumbo weren't going for the stage win (but were obviously going to allow a non-dangerous break on the road).

So that story seems to be true (applying it on Sunday's stage).

What he can't be entitled about and is actually a bit laughable, is bleeding extra time yesterday, and believing this will be a reason JV won't chase him today on the road to Angliru: Ofcourse they will chase him if they want the stage, irregardless of him bleeding extra time or not, because even if he wins the stage, it won't be by much, so that won't make any difference for GC.

McEwen said it was an interview from this morning,

 

[Tim Cahill]

Marc Soler what a guy, will probably lose big time but going for glory on the big stage, it's what it's all about.

 

[Rob5091]

Soler is less then 1 minute behind Ayuso on GC, so if "his radio is broken" let's hope he goes for it.
Mas is also only 20 seconds ahead of Solar so Movistar will have to be alert.

 

[ice&fire]

When does Movistar start defending Mas 5th place from Soler?

 

[Ripper]

I read a rumour(?) that Matxin said car radio lost contact with the riders on the last climb yesterday so they had no clue what their riders were doing.

Well, their riders certainly don't know what they're doing

 

[IndianCyclist]

Marc Soler doing Marc Soler things.........only to eventually lose 10 minutes!

UAE tactics - So complicated that they don't understand it themselves.

 

[ice&fire]

I read a rumour(?) that Matxin said car radio lost contact with the riders on the last climb yesterday so they had no clue what their riders were doing.

Not a rumour, he said that on TV

 

[Volderke]

McEwen said it was an interview from this morning,

Well, as said, if Evenepoel thinks it makes any difference for today's stage, he is deluded.
But at the other hand, it seems he has some legs, and as he is on the road now (whether or not Jumbo gave resistance, we can't know as we didn't have TV footage) and he is making it a hard(er) day for Jumbo, if Jumbo is still going for the stage win.
Good for the race I'd say.

 

[ontheroad]

Only a matter of time before Movistar begin riding to protect their 5th place on GC!

 

[saunaking]

How so is it a secret? He literally said this in an interview.

"I'm going for the blue dots jersey, tomorrow I'll attack to secure it, I probably won't win because Jumbo might want to go for it."

Ok i didn't know that.
Kind of lame he is targeting the KOM jersey. In the Vuelta.
That is a 3rd tier rider type of move/goal

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Love the grinta move by Soler but he should've timed it with a realistic possibility to get to Remco and Cattaneo. Now he'll doomed in no man's land.

 

[Rob5091]

Soler is only 2 minutes behind Roglic so this could be a smart move if he links up with Remco.

 

[Berniece]

Tactically it makes sense to send Soler in front, with the idea that Ayuso closes that gap and he works for him. OR Soler is just being Soler

 

[noob]

Well, their riders certainly don't know what they're doing

Exactly. I just assumed that was because of the bosses, because their main goal is GC points always. They've said so and it explains a lot of weird things they do.

 

[Tim Cahill]

The front should wait up for Soler to try and stir sh*t up with Jumbo ahead of the 2024 Tour.

 

[Berniece]

Ok i didn't know that.
Kind of lame he is targeting the KOM jersey. In the Vuelta.
That is a 3rd tier rider type of move/goal

Generates more money for his teammates than being 5th in GC though. He might do it for that reason. He also likes to collect jerseys.

But I agree, I would've preferred seeing him go for GC, than KOM, but after Tourmalet I think the only logical decision was to go for stages and this jersey.

 

[Rob5091]

Jumbo forced to ride harder I think is the tactic from UAE.
Shame it's again such a short stage!

 

[noob]

Not a rumour, he said that on TV

Thanks! That would make sense. I did see Almeida talking to Ayuso before he went up the road yesterday.