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It's also messing with the riders, who're significantly more important.
no. the fans are always more important. But yes, its messing with the riders & teams as well. Even if it turns out to be perfect conditions at the end and you all look like idiots, thats what you've agreed to, stick with it.
 
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The vuelta organisers are determined to undermine the prestige of their race, already this small grand tour is no longer on the level of tour or Giro. Last year they do a route easier than tour de l'avenir with 130km Hill stages and this year they just make stupid mickeymouse processional neutralised stages.

Just put the race at a normal time , not at night, and do normal stages with no neutralisation or weird gimmicks. Stop penalising riders who do well in bad weather. If the conditions are really bad during the race they can neutralise gc, but going back and forth before the start using some kind of crystal ball is stupid.

I don't wish for riders to end their race in absurd conditions, but you can't predict what will happen at the end of the day in the morning.

Things are made worse by rider representatives and organisers always pandering to random twitter users who are constantly trying to get engagement and keep recycling the same discussions

Please bring me back the big classics, tour flanders, Paris roubaix, lombardia, world championships. Real showmen of the sport pogacar, Van der poel, alaphilippe, masnada, Van baarle, sagan, remco going head to head

I'm only watching this to see what shape Remco and Mas have for Il Lombardia.
 
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Sometimes I wonder what you do for a living.
How do you in the most humbly way answer such a provocative question?

OK starting with backfire; FYI, not everyone is cut off from having infinite time for themselves.

In my case, severe busyness and just adding last half decade of years, both in terms of work with round-the-clock shifts, serious illness in several people in both the immediate family and in the next level, beloved to take care of, besides small kids mostly alone together with.

*edit* not just a keyboard warrior here. Been out on the bike in a lovely mix of clouds, puddles, sun, cats and dogs for several hours early this morning, besides attended more amateur "recreational races", one of my favouites being a race typically spiced with
rain constantly riding for 5 hours with temperatures around 0°C, typically with slippery mud from fields on the tarmac, huge puddles etc. This fighting some hard sneezes driving around with white knuckles and no gloves. You know the limit and respect the limit.
But with all due respect, of course, it cannot be compared to riders who make their living from it, unlike the above-mentioned cycling race where the reward is a hot bowl of soup (fortunately, the race has been resurrected after otherwise being canceled the past few years, now my only personal issue is...time! :confused:).

But at least the professional riders also have a knack for negotiating the right side of the limit.
They are in fact supposed to be professionals within this field.
 
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So i guess today there is potential for some GC action on top of Montjuïc.

Only if someone chases down the break.

It's been one of the potential pre-race concerns of mine regarding the co-captaincy at Jumbo, i.e. the team not chasing breakaways for bonus seconds when it could suit Rog because Vingegaard doesn't care about them.
 
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The breakaway coach, I like the idea. Adam is doing a far better job than most DS's at giving the team talk.
 
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But probably a lot less jostling for positioning because of 2nd rate gc riders no longer needing to take position.
 
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wtf happened?
what is with the awful tv production this year?
yesterday was a disaster
no camera on Remco incident/drop
then the random bora guy shown as remco's avatar
i thought ASO ran this thing
 
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