Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 9: Cartagena - Collado de la Cruz de Caravaca, 184.5k

[DNP-Old]

This gap between Roglic and Mas is apparently 2 seconds, lmao. The memeing doesn't stop.

 

[RedheadDane]

Claiming that other people are being overdramatic when you are pretending the alternative to what Unipublic did here is cancelling the race completely is absolutely hilarious.

If everyone climbs off, the race will be cancelled by default.

Anyway, tomorrow's there's another race.
No, not in Spain. In the UK.

 

[Red Rick]

This gap between Roglic and Mas is apparently 2 seconds, lmao. The memeing doesn't stop.

Roglic is across the line, and I've been looking at this for 3 minutes now and Mas still hasn't crossed it.

They probably started the clock after Kämna and only took differences compared to him so you can get 2s with only 1.01s on the road for real

 

[Ricco']

Poels lost heaps of time, apparently.

 

[Ripper]

This gap between Roglic and Mas is apparently 2 seconds, lmao. The memeing doesn't stop.

I would not be surprised if the timing was by some random person on the side of the road counting one one-thousand, two one-thousand ...

 

[Netserk]

Got to say, it wasn't obvious from the heli that this was the GC finish-line:

 

[yaco]

1) it would only be the domestiques putting in an effort
2) there's a rest day tomorrow

It was already a tough stage with two lots of echelons meaning flat out racing - Except for Jumbo, the other teams were light on for domestics, so it achieves little, especially if all the main GC contenders are in the front group - And of course you can still take GC time on the final climb even if the break wins the stage. It was a no brainer decision by the peleton.

 

[Ripper]

Got to say, it wasn't obvious from the heli that this was the GC finish-line:

What a cluster duck

 

[DNP-Old]

The gap between Remco to Ayuso is bigger than the one between Roglic and Mas, but the former get placed in m.t.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Or maybe the organisers would rather their race continues through to the end, even if it means altering minor details like where the time is taken.

The way some of you guys are acting, you'd think cycling is gonna cease to exists because of stuff like today.

Why should anyone return to la Vuelta in the future?

I have no clue why you are shielding the organizers from criticism. This event is supposed to be Grand Tour and it is being run as if three hillbillies strung out on meth were making the organizational decisions.

Cycling already has massive issues staying a float how do you think cycling is supposed to expand or even maintain itself viewship when finishes are being moved to completely random and unmarked locations.

The ASO completely lost the trust of the riders to maintain their safety to a completely inexcusable decision to start riders 10 minutes before sunset.

What has followed is quite frankly some of the most appauling decision making I've ever seen in cycling.

Why would any new fan want to watch something so capriciously arbitrary.

 

[Red Rick]

1) it would only be the domestiques putting in an effort
2) there's a rest day tomorrow

The results on the road should show why nobody bothered to chase down the breakaway. Evenepoel didn't fancy himself against Roglic, and Jumbo probably thought the net gain vs Evenepoel would probably be negative with Kuss and Vingegaard losing seconds.

 

[Netserk]

Was it really only the mud in the last 100 m that was the reason for GC times to be taken earlier?! It seemed perfectly raceable.

 

[RedheadDane]

I have no clue why you are shielding the organizers from criticism. This event is supposed to be Grand Tour and it is being run as if three hillbillies strung out on meth were making the organizational decisions.

The organisers rightly got criticism for the darkness finish on stage 1.
As for this, well... it was silly, it was a mess, but the race goes on, and in a few years it'll probably be remembered on level with stage 19 of the 2019 TdF; that sometimes... stuff just happens.

Cycling already has massive issues staying a float how do you think cycling is supposed to expand or even maintain itself viewship when finishes are being moved to completely random and unmarked locations.

The finish was marked well enough, just ask Kämna.

 

[theyoungest]

The time gaps look like they were taken at the 2 km to go banner, which is a bit odd. It certainly looked like that's where Roglic thought the "finish" was, but if the organizers adapted to him it's definitely clear who is El Patron.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Farther down the finish list:

149	KRON Andreas	Lotto Dstny	26:38
150	PEDERSEN Casper	Soudal - Quick Step	17:37
151	MOLLEMA Bauke	Lidl - Trek	17:51
152	BERNAL Egan	INEOS Grenadiers	7:16
153	MOLANO Juan Sebastián	UAE Team Emirates	27:12
154	OLIVEIRA Rui	UAE Team Emirates	17:57
155	BATTISTELLA Samuele	Astana Qazaqstan Team	4:58
156	GHYS Robbe	Alpecin-Deceuninck	16:46
157	CEPEDA Jefferson Alveiro	Caja Rural - Seguros RGA	18:19
158	SCOTSON Callum	Team Jayco AlUla	19:04
159	DRIZNERS Jarrad	Lotto Dstny	28:27

No-one told Molano he didn't need to make any effort in the last 2km. Bernal and Battistella found a cafe somewhere in that "mudbath".

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So mini-Roglstomp at the end. Remco smoked!

 

[Didinho]

I would not be surprised if the timing was by some random person on the side of the road counting one one-thousand, two one-thousand ...

We all know you got to count in Mississippi seconds.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Farther down the finish list:

152	BERNAL Egan	INEOS Grenadiers				7:16
153	MOLANO Juan Sebastián	UAE Team Emirates				27:12
154	OLIVEIRA Rui	UAE Team Emirates				17:57
155	BATTISTELLA Samuele	Astana Qazaqstan Team				4:58
156	GHYS Robbe	Alpecin-Deceuninck				16:46
157	CEPEDA Jefferson Alveiro	Caja Rural - Seguros RGA				18:19

No-one told Molano he didn't need to make any effort in the last 2km. Bernal and Battistella found a cafe somewhere in that "mudbath".

Or more probably, they ***ed up the timing at 2k to go for some riders.

 

[ice&fire]

Was it really only the mud in the last 100 m that was the reason for GC times to be taken earlier?! It seemed perfectly raceable.

No. It was mud in a dangerous turn to the left in the short descent a bit more than 1km to the line.

 

[Didinho]

I’ve read yesterday that Ayuso is not so good on the shorter steep climbs?
With a bad day he stayed with the others and also today within reach. He’s gonna stomp the next 2 weeks.

 

[joseph89]

Remco (Mission Accomplished) he now has landa setting off before him during the TT

 

[balac]

The Vuelta has been a mess, but it's on a very good position for the organizers. Unless a massive Vingegaard stomp happens on the ITT, there will be a lot of interest going on 2nd and 3rd weeks.

 

[zlev11]

did they sit around and try think of the dumbest possible solution to the problem? why didn't they just take time at 1k to go?

 

[Faserr]

I’ve read yesterday that Ayuso is not so good on the shorter steep climbs?
With a bad day he stayed with the others and also today within reach. He’s gonna stomp the next 2 weeks.

Hopefully he does what he did at the big Tour de Suisse Stage. Then JV and Evenepoel have to be really strong and we have a fight.

 

[ice&fire]

did they sit around and try think of the dumbest possible solution to the problem? why didn't they just take time at 1k to go?

Because there were two problematic points: first was a dangerous turn in the descent at more than 1km to the line and then there was a gate at 2.050 km to the line before the start of the descent.