Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2025, Stage 13: Cabezón de la Sal – L’Angliru (202.5k)

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Is Angliru ever really exciting? It's mostly hard, but has the racing ever been very enjoyable to watch? I don't think I've ever been on the edge of my seat during Angliru.

No, I don't like Angliru at all.
We didn't have any attack, it blocks the stage and it could destroy the racing on previous stages.
On top of that, despite things escalating very early today, and the pace being very high, we have limited time gaps.
Give us a 6km/9% climb with the same strategy from UAE and things would explode big time.
 
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Is Angliru ever really exciting? It's mostly hard, but has the racing ever been very enjoyable to watch? I don't think I've ever been on the edge of my seat during Angliru.
It was fun and exciting when they didn't have adequate gears yet, before every other mountain goat track had been paved and used in a race
 
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Impressed by the Bota Lume! GG Joao!
That was a great win and one of the masterpieces of his career!

Surely Vingo looks on the downside...people should attack him everywhere, he's certainly not at the top of his game.
 
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You have no idea who I am ;)

And yes he is.
I know that you aren't at the level of a GT winner, in whatever it is you do. If you were, you wouldn't need to post on cycling forms, about people being cowards. Hey, I'm good at what I do, but I don't have the same dedication to what I do, as Jonas does to what he does, and even if I did, I wouldn't be at a level equal to a GT winner in cycling.

Tell yourself whatever it is you need to tell yourself.
 
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Guys, tell yourselves whatever you need to tell yourselves, but Jonas was never in danger of getting dropped. Jonas is still the strongest rider in the race. Cope.
Many things can be true at the same time, Ameida's moves put him in a great position overall, everyone below him on GC is definitely going to need an act of God to take @2 minutes back from him in his current form..he made the best with what he had, and his dynamic decision to just race regardless if his effort benefited Vingegaard was bold!! Super fun to watch. As far as rider to rider comparison.. Ameida was definitely as strong as Vingegaard today, he did way way more work than Vingegaard, and look at the day.. Victory, gut check on everyone, including Jonas, bonus seconds and a bit more buffer.
Don't know about watts and calories but Almeida looking outstanding compared to Vingegaard.
 
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I'll take that over someone like Armstrong, any day.
I'm not sure what Armstrong has to do with this. I'm a fan of Jonas, and I hoped he would win today. He himself said he wanted to win the stage. But he said after the race he did not have the legs to beat Almeida. Give Almeida credit. It was an epic ride and win that none of us will forget.
 
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Many things can be true at the same time, Ameida's moves put him in a great position overall, everyone below him on GC is definitely going to need an act of God to take @2 minutes back from him in his current form..he made the best with what he had, and his dynamic decision to just race regardless if his effort benefited Vingegaard was bold!! Super fun to watch. As far as rider to rider comparison.. Ameida was definitely as strong as Vingegaard today, he did way way more work than Vingegaard, and look at the day.. Victory, gut check on everyone, including Jonas, bonus seconds and a bit more buffer.
Don't know about watts and calories but Almeida looking outstanding compared to Vingegaard.
Vingegaard looked well within himself to me, and I don't think Alemda is capable of dropping him. I never saw a hint that he could be dropped. If that UAE jersey were on different shoulders, I think that would have been different, but we're talking about Almeda, not Pogacar.
 
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I'm not sure what Armstrong has to do with this. I'm a fan of Jonas, and I hoped he would win today. He himself said he wanted to win the stage. But he said after the race he did not have the legs to beat Almeida. Give Almeida credit. It was an epic ride and win that none of us will forget.
That isn't what he said.
 
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Puppies!
Sadly we unanimously agree earlier that all dogs should be banned.
 
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Almeida remembered the final 200 meters better than Vingo, methinks. The Dane wanted to win but didn't have space to overtake at the end.
What's most likely is Vingegaard knew the finish, but Almeida simply changed his pacing plan to be able to ride hard from the final uphill bit to the end. They lost considerable time at the end, and Vingegaard never felt comfortable enough to come over the top on the uphill.
 
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I know that you aren't at the level of a GT winner, in whatever it is you do. If you were, you wouldn't need to post on cycling forms, about people being cowards. Hey, I'm good at what I do, but I don't have the same dedication to what I do, as Jonas does to what he does, and even if I did, I wouldn't be at a level equal to a GT winner in cycling.

Tell yourself whatever it is you need to tell yourself.
What you "feel" and what you "know" are not the same mate - but this debate is going nowhere, so I'll leave it at that - have a nice evening :cool:
 
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What are some people talking about? Jonas being a gentleman and giving the stage to Joao?
Remember stage 19 of the Tour? Jonas sucked wheels and was 1 second away from pipping Arensman for the win.
This is the Angliru and he wanted to win. He was beaten by a stronger man. Fair and square.