Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2025, Stage 6: Olot – Pal, 170.3k

[Cycling111]

Will any Spanish cyclist make top 10 this year?In the end, Enric Mas is the only reliable rider in the Vuelta

 

[Tricycle Rider]

So that's Vine, Campi, and Jorgenson has upped his 70's porn stache game too!

 

[Sciatic]

I will never understand why they show the second place

I would not understand if they didn't. And in this case 2nd place is the new red jersey so that adds to it.

 

[ice&fire]

Ayuso said in the interview that he didn't know who won before the reporters told him that it was Vine.

That's what happens when you switch the team radio off

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Feel like we're about two more stages like this away from the UAE fanboys on here negatively polarising me into actively rooting for Vingegaard and Ayuso.

 

[Brullnux]

But others behind are? So if hes ahead it makes no sense to push on to gain time now is that what were going with?

I guess he just rode at the front pushing on for fun, thanks for proving my point fanboys will make their own reality of what happened. I guess it make no sense to push on when rivals are behind now. Make sense

Yeah but the point is he never tried to drop Ciccone – that was clear. He did go to the front to push on and then the gap (between five and ten seconds) closed. It never looked like he really went all-in to push the gap open, I think it was a tester that Almeida was more than up for. But there's no way you can reasonably say that Vingegaard tried to drop Ciccone (?) and wasn't able to.

Like I said, it's a terrible climb and by the time they attacked it had become shallow. It isn't easy to open a gap on those slopes unless you're streets ahead of everyone else, and Vingegaard/Almeida aren't that uneven. But it doesn't really show much other than Almeida is in good form, Vingegaard isn't going to win at 160bpm, and this is the best Ciccone has ever been.

 

[Unchained]

I was thinking Intergalactic

 

[Rob5091]

Blah, blah, blah ... the big news! Chumil comes in only 6 seconds behind Landa, O'Connor, Gaudu etc. The dream lives on!

 

[Rou]

I think Vingegaard didn't care about this stage. He is no Tadej so he is probably sticking to Visma's plan and will wait for Angliru.

I think he will try to strike tomorrow. If he doesn't move or cause damage on Cerler the race will be very interesting.

 

[yaco]

You said that this was a weak break, but then you didn't mention any riders stronger than the guys actually in the break. That's the confusion.

It is a combination of riders who share particular characteristics that make a break strong or weak. How come in this thread only two riders in the break were mentioned as possible winners Vine and Fortunato. Anyway, there should plenty of opportunities for breaks in this Vuelta and more discussion about their relative strength or weakness.

 

[dgodave]

One of the good thing about this forum is that it convinces me that I'm not as over-critical about things as I feared. Some cycling fans are much more negative.

Cycling isnt that exciting al the time. Sometimes it is. But not on average. (Probably true of all sports really).

I still find it fun to watch.

 

[Brullnux]

One of the good thing about this forum is that it convinces me that I'm not as over-critical about things as I feared. Some cycling fans are much more negative.

I'm not hugely critical of races normally but not much at all happened today.

Vine attacked with 15km to go and the stage win was sown up. Traen distanced the rest of the break with 8km to go and the red jersey was sown up. Nobody in the peloton attacked until Ciccone in the final 1.5-2km who got a bit of a gap with Vingo but it was all back together within 500m and they rode together to the line. Not a particularly interesting day, other than Ayuso imploding.

 

[James M]

Yeah but the point is he never tried to drop Ciccone – that was clear. He did go to the front to push on and then the gap (between five and ten seconds) closed. It never looked like he really went all-in to push the gap open, I think it was a tester that Almeida was more than up for. But there's no way you can reasonably say that Vingegaard tried to drop Ciccone (?) and wasn't able to.

Like I said, it's a terrible climb and by the time they attacked it had become shallow. It isn't easy to open a gap on those slopes unless you're streets ahead of everyone else, and Vingegaard/Almeida aren't that uneven. But it doesn't really show much other than Almeida is in good form, Vingegaard isn't going to win at 160bpm, and this is the best Ciccone has ever been.

Anyway, whatever happens, we’ll see soon enough. I genuinely wish Jonas success here. Hes far better than his palmares suggests, and I wouldnt mind at all if he won this like he should, he deserves it.

 

[Unchained]

Yeah but the point is he never tried to drop Ciccone – that was clear. He did go to the front to push on and then the gap (between five and ten seconds) closed. It never looked like he really went all-in to push the gap open, I think it was a tester that Almeida was more than up for. But there's no way you can reasonably say that Vingegaard tried to drop Ciccone (?) and wasn't able to.

Like I said, it's a terrible climb and by the time they attacked it had become shallow. It isn't easy to open a gap on those slopes unless you're streets ahead of everyone else, and Vingegaard/Almeida aren't that uneven. But it doesn't really show much other than Almeida is in good form, Vingegaard isn't going to win at 160bpm, and this is the best Ciccone has ever been.

Most of what you are saying makes sense, including a resume check for Ciccone, guy is excellent for the year but Vingegaard did minimum and didn't need to go too deep against him, instead Jonas is thinking UAE riders littered all the road, Ayuso dumped so hard he is 8 minutes out on stage 6, disaster. Bernal racing good but he is spotty and others in the front don't look as springy as Vingegaard..Visma very smart race overall, Almeida pushed the gas pretty hard and didn't drop anybody. He got out of the saddle for some silly meaningless sprint and everyone was still on his wheel.

 

[Cookster15]

Nice ride by Jay Vine, he was strong to hold that gap. Well deserved.

Not sure why Almeida is criticised for not dropping back to help Ayuso though? Almeida is now clear leader for UAE and is still in contention for a podium. But not if he sacrificed minutes to help an ailing Ayuso. That was Marc Soler’s job.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nice ride by Jay Vine, he was strong to hold that gap. Well deserved.

Not sure why Almeida is criticised for not dropping back to help Ayuso though? Almeida is now clear leader for UAE and is still in contention for a podium. But not if he sacrificed minutes to help an ailing Ayuso. That was Marc Soler’s job.

Those people were joking

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Not sure why Almeida is criticised for not dropping back to help Ayuso though? Almeida is now clear leader for UAE and is still in contention for a podium. But not if he sacrificed minutes to help an ailing Ayuso. That was Marc Soler’s job.

You might want to check if your sarcasm detector is still working.

And going by some of the other replies, you're not the only one...

 

[titan31]

Will any Spanish cyclist make top 10 this year?In the end, Enric Mas is the only reliable rider in the Vuelta

Soler is probably the best/maybe only chance

 

[Cookster15]

You might want to check if your sarcasm detector is still working.

I will go back to sleep 😴

 

[Valv.Piti]

Nice ride by Jay Vine, he was strong to hold that gap. Well deserved.

Not sure why Almeida is criticised for not dropping back to help Ayuso though? Almeida is now clear leader for UAE and is still in contention for a podium. But not if he sacrificed minutes to help an ailing Ayuso. That was Marc Soler’s job.

I haven't keep up in this thread, but surely nobody has critisized Almeida for that and if they are, its straight up trolling. Ayuso literally sat up and lost many, many minutes. And of course thats not Soler's job either. Why in the world it be? Ayuso literally lost 7-8 minutes in 6 km, he's out of GC. Soler is the best UAE rider outside of Almeida.

 

[James M]

Nice ride by Jay Vine, he was strong to hold that gap. Well deserved.

Vine is such a stud and an enigma at the same time.

In terms of pure w/kg, he's a monster with a selective group in the world. If it werent for the fact that he makes Roglic look crash-proof by comparison and by that I mean his reliability Vine would be the perfect asset. That said, his current role is pretty cool, not gonna lie. And honestly, the fact that he openly admits he loves money and that his end goal is kind of refreshing.

 

[Unchained]

Spanish Eurosport they showed a different camera angle of protesters blocking the path of Israel Premier Tech TTT, after seeing it from much closer instead of helicopter angle, super dangerous, could have been deadly with riders, motorcycles, follow vehicles and pedestrians all converge at high speed and random crazy behavior. Very irresponsible, irritating to endanger the lives of many, many, too many people involved in a bicycle race...glad they are mixing highlights from 2009,2007 Vueltas otherwise I would have thrown something at my TV, already in foul mood with rain wrecking my day!!!

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ra_atZjpG4&pp=ygUWUHJvdHJzdG9yIGF0IGJpa2UgcmFjZQ%3D%3D

View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/3taA_GS8XCs

View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tFxgp1MUEA0


I watch these to lift my spirits!

 

[Cookster15]

If it werent for the fact that he makes Roglic look crash-proof by comparison and by that I mean his reliability

I guess he still suffers for how he arrived from the Zwift program. The computer boffins will never figure out how to simulate descending and road craft. Maybe a brain implant.

 

[Cookster15]

I haven't keep up in this thread, but surely nobody has critisized Almeida for that and if they are, its straight up trolling. Ayuso literally sat up and lost many, many minutes. And of course thats not Soler's job either. Why in the world it be? Ayuso literally lost 7-8 minutes in 6 km, he's out of GC. Soler is the best UAE rider outside of Almeida.

Me either. I just dropped in on my phone and read a post by @Tim Cahill. I guess it was sarcasm which flew over my head.

 

[Unchained]

I haven't keep up in this thread, but surely nobody has critisized Almeida for that and if they are, its straight up trolling. Ayuso literally sat up and lost many, many minutes. And of course thats not Soler's job either. Why in the world it be? Ayuso literally lost 7-8 minutes in 6 km, he's out of GC. Soler is the best UAE rider outside of Almeida.

It's certainly the job of Vine and Soler to guard, pace riders like Ayuso and Almeida, today was the bike racing equivalent of the fire department going out for a pizza during an emergency. Today was a mental injury for UAE and I hope for the next 2 weeks the only questions asked at pre and post race pressers are why Ayuso stunk the place up so early and is he going to transfer teams during the race..