Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2025, Stage 6: Olot – Pal, 170.3k

[Rou]

He was but I'm not sure how much effort Vingegaard but into that. It was a bit of a nothing climb

Jonas wanted to drop Ciccone but he couldn't. This is what I saw.

 

[E_F_]

Jonas kinda dabbing on them, by showing them, that he doesn't fear them.

 

[titan31]

Some fair losers today even with not much GC action.

Landa, O Connor, Gaudu, Soler and Ayuso

 

[Brullnux]

Jonas wanted to drop Ciccone but he couldn't. This is what I saw.

You saw badly. The climbs was 6-7% by that point and dropping Ciccone would have been so useless. Vingegaard went to set a pace at the front but it's shallow – see the fact Almeida dragged around 15 riders up with him.

A bad climb and a bad stage, don't think it reveals much other than Almedia/Ciccone/Vingegaard are the best here.

 

[Danskebjerge]

A nice almost archetypal mountain stage: A solo stage winner, a rider in the breakaway taking over the GC lead, some attacks further down the last mountain among the GC guys.

 

[slim charles]

It's always problematic when someone with mustache wins, but there are worse characteristics I guess.

Joking aside, that's a good win for Jay, glad for him.

I missed the entire race until last 15km today (and some highlights of previous stages).Doesn't feel like I missed that much by the comments, in terms of GC.

Ayuso... Sigh.
Jonas looked to me like he could go whenever he wanted but then he didn't so.. idk, maybe he's not as much stronger than the rest as we expected? He's still winning this, obviously, but tbh I expected it already to be more than clear.

 

[yaco]

Harper/Dunbar are no better than Vine, Kuss is a domestique, Fortunato is way better than Higuita and Poels, and Meintjes and Howson is just... what? It's not 2019.

What this really sounds like is wanting a Jayco rider or ex rider in the break.

I am not saying they are better they are Vine, but these riders can only win from a break, so there is no point staying in the peleton. I'll also add that the DS's would want their riders in the break. Anyway, Vine is becoming smarter in the way he approaches stage races and is reaping the results.

 

[fenns]

Already looks like 2 of Almeida, Ciccone and Bernal for 2nd and 3rd.

Aysuo shocking - he's going to DNF very soon.

 

[James M]

Jonas wanted to drop Ciccone but he couldn't. This is what I saw.

Exactly what happened then Almeida reeled them back in. Anyone who watched knows that's not hard to figure out. Of course, fanboys will make themselves believe whatever they wish to be true for whatever reason, but it's not hard to see what happened for anyone actually watching.

 

[JosefK]

Pretty sure Jay Vine was in that Beastie Boys video for Sabotage.

 

[Brullnux]

I am not saying they are better they are Vine, but these riders can only win from a break, so there is no point staying in the peleton. I'll also add that the DS's would want their riders in the break. Anyway, Vine is becoming smarter in the way he approaches stage races and is reaping the results.

You said that this was a weak break, but then you didn't mention any riders stronger than the guys actually in the break. That's the confusion.

 

[James M]

Great win by Vine. That guy is a watt monster. Too bad he can't stay on the bike too much and by that, I mean hes not that reliable. Because aside from that, the guy is a legit watt monster.

 

[Brullnux]

Exactly what happened then Almeida reeled them back in. Anyone who watched knows that's not hard to figure out. Of course, fanboys will make themselves believe whatever they wish to be true for whatever reason, but it's not hard to see what happened for anyone actually watching.

Vingegaard clearly didn't attack, and what sense is there to drop Ciccone in a shallow climb? Like just logically – Ciccone isn't an actual GC threat, and you would gain much more time working together. Why would Jonas have tried to do that?

 

[Rou]

Matxin hugging and kissing his protegee Ayuso.

 

[movingtarget]

Typical Vine attack. Nice win.

 

[yaco]

Six stages in and we're still waiting for the first real attack...

If Vingegaard does a real attack then the race is over!

 

[Dazed and Confused]

TT in the leader's jersey:

1	Træen Torstein	Bahrain - Victorious	20		20:25:46
2	Armirail Bruno	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team			0:31
3	Fortunato Lorenzo	XDS Astana Team		2″	1:01
4	Vervaeke Louis	Soudal Quick-Step		4″	1:58
5	Vingegaard Jonas	Team Visma | Lease a Bike		14″	2:33
6	Almeida João	UAE Team Emirates - XRG			2:41
7	Ciccone Giulio	Lidl - Trek		6″	2:42
8	Jorgenson Matteo	Team Visma | Lease a Bike			2:49
9	Hindley Jai	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe			2:53
10	Pellizzari Giulio	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe			,,

A handful of hopeful GC riders got discarded today luckily.

 

[Red Rick]

You saw badly. The climbs was 6-7% by that point and dropping Ciccone would have been so useless. Vingegaard went to set a pace at the front but it's shallow – see the fact Almeida dragged around 15 riders up with him.

A bad climb and a bad stage, don't think it reveals much other than Almedia/Ciccone/Vingegaard are the best here.

This was the most 2009 Tour de France stage I've seen in 16 years.

Looked to me like Vingegaard was just testing if he could ride away easily and if Ciccone would cooperate.

 

[James M]

Vingegaard clearly didn't attack, and what sense is there to drop Ciccone in a shallow climb? Like just logically – Ciccone isn't an actual GC threat, and you would gain much more time working together. Why would Jonas have tried to do that?

But others behind are? So if hes ahead it makes no sense to push on to gain time now is that what were going with?

I guess he just rode at the front pushing on for fun, thanks for proving my point fanboys will make their own reality of what happened. I guess it make no sense to push on when rivals are behind now. Make sense

 

[Unchained]

Man was I wrong.. Jay Vine let off the leash, great win, excellent effort by him, Almeida did bike change nobody there..Juan Ayuso blew up nobody there, Marc Soler riding like he is contending for GC..
Visma with structure, Kuss, Jorgenson there guarding their leader..Trek riding well, Ciccone riding like he is contending.. outstanding work.. Pidcock in the mix...

 

[Rou]

Ayuso said in the interview that he didn't know who won before the reporters told him that it was Vine.

 

[Danskebjerge]

A bad climb and a bad stage

One of the good things about this forum is that it convinces me that I'm not as over-critical about things as I feared. Some cycling fans are much more negative.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think Vingegaard didn't care about this stage. He is no Tadej so he is probably sticking to Visma's plan and will wait for Angliru.

 

[Rou]

One of the good thing about this forum is that it convinces me that I'm not as over-critical about things as I feared. Some cycling fans are much more negative.

Agree. Today's stage was quite enjoyable.

 

[Netserk]

Grande Vine!

Worthy successor to Kuss here in Andorra.