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The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird
 
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LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

Add Slagter to that list. Craddock has continously been called Slagter throughout the race :D
 
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LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

He used to go on a lot about "little Louis Meintjes" a lot too :D
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Arredondo said:
But Arrate is hard. The best rider in the race will take time there.

And then it's just the case of taking risks in the descent.
There are 5 flat km.

But i don't know many time Alberto can take on Henao there.

It's different when you have 5 flat k's after a hard climb + descent, or 5 k's at the beginning of a TT.

Can he take 10 seconds on Henao at 5 flat km's? 15? Or only 5?
 
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Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.
 
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happytramp said:
LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

He used to go on a lot about "little Louis Meintjes" a lot too :D

But now he has taken against Meintjes for leaving his mate Brian Smith's Dim Data and he portends all kind of doom for Meintjes at Lampre
 
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Taxus4a said:
Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.

The thing is Henao (or any other GC contender) won't have to follow Kreuziger at all.
All Henao has to do, is follow AC when he attacks and drop him in the last hundred meters before the top of the last climb. Which I think he will given how strong he was today.
 
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Cannibal72 said:
yaco said:
TMP402 said:
Yet another Sébastien Reichenbach conversation.


think you have an obsession with Kirkby
Reichembach was mentioned once in the telecast. And Reichembach is 10th in GC

No, he was mentioned more.

You are obsessed
Reichenbach was called in passing as Kirkby described the race. As he should be.
 
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HelloDolly said:
happytramp said:
LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

He used to go on a lot about "little Louis Meintjes" a lot too :D

But now he has taken against Meintjes for leaving his mate Brian Smith's Dim Data and he portends all kind of doom for Meintjes at Lampre

Not as much doom as he portends for Pierre Rolland, who has disappointed Kirby so much he now can't talk about him withou adopting the tone of a bride jilted at the altar.
 
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Nice.. Imagine Henao's numbers?
 
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Ataraxus said:
Taxus4a said:
Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.

The thing is Henao (or any other GC contender) won't have to follow Kreuziger at all.
All Henao has to do, is follow AC when he attacks and drop him in the last hundred meters. Which I think he will given how strong he was today.

Contador is not the one who needs to attack here lets just straighten that out pretty quick. Its on Henao, Quintana etc to attack since their worse in the TT !

That beeing said im not saying he wont attack or anything cause afterall its Contador and ofc it would be good for him too to gain time on Samu, Kelderman, Pinot and everyone else buts its not do or die for him to gain time tomorrow which you can say for someone else lets just put it like that.
 
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Cannibal72 said:
HelloDolly said:
happytramp said:
LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

He used to go on a lot about "little Louis Meintjes" a lot too :D

But now he has taken against Meintjes for leaving his mate Brian Smith's Dim Data and he portends all kind of doom for Meintjes at Lampre

Not as much doom as he portends for Pierre Rolland, who has disappointed Kirby so much he now can't talk about him withou adopting the tone of a bride jilted at the altar.

Facts is Meintjes and Rolland have been disappointing so far in 2016
 
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blackmamba said:
Ataraxus said:
Taxus4a said:
Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.

The thing is Henao (or any other GC contender) won't have to follow Kreuziger at all.
All Henao has to do, is follow AC when he attacks and drop him in the last hundred meters. Which I think he will given how strong he was today.

Contador is not the one who needs to attack here lets just straighten that out pretty quick. Its on Henao, Quintana etc to attack since their worse in the TT !

That beeing said im not saying he wont attack or anything cause afterall its Contador and ofc it would be good for him too to gain time on Samu, Kelderman, Pinot and everyone else buts its not do or die for him to gain time tomorrow which you can say for someone else lets just put it like that.

If AC won't attack he'll still very likely be dropped by Henao when the last k punches begin.
I don't see Kreuz being very important in this case either.
 
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yaco said:
Cannibal72 said:
HelloDolly said:
happytramp said:
LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

He used to go on a lot about "little Louis Meintjes" a lot too :D

But now he has taken against Meintjes for leaving his mate Brian Smith's Dim Data and he portends all kind of doom for Meintjes at Lampre

Not as much doom as he portends for Pierre Rolland, who has disappointed Kirby so much he now can't talk about him withou adopting the tone of a bride jilted at the altar.

Facts is Meintjes and Rolland have been disappointing so far in 2016

Meintjes is 24 years old and has ridden all of 21 race days this year. Let's try not to judge him too early; yes, he didn't finish Catalunya or PV, but what did you expect him to do?

(Also, on Reichenbach, you can read back through this thread and find that he was - at the very least - mentioned at 14:26 and 15:02: that's well before the race was over and the GC for the day was known, so your argument that he only mentioned him in passing owing to his GC position doesn't really stand up. I rather like Kirby, but it mystifies me that you're denying his Reichenbach fixation.)
 
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Ataraxus said:
Taxus4a said:
Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.

The thing is Henao (or any other GC contender) won't have to follow Kreuziger at all.
All Henao has to do, is follow AC when he attacks and drop him in the last hundred meters before the top of the last climb. Which I think he will given how strong he was today.

if Kreuziger is ahead the race will be diferent,becouse for the forst time we will seea race fromfar in Arrate stage.
Oam not saying anymore.

Other way if there are attack in the forst climb, favourites later stopped as they did today.

if Henao just need to follow Contador wheel or not it not something we knows already. all the riders will want to star the ITT with themaximun difference. but as well all the riders will try to save energy fot the ITT.
 
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yaco said:
Cannibal72 said:
HelloDolly said:
happytramp said:
LaFlorecita said:
The impression I get from here and also twitter is that Carlton has an obsession with Reichenbach and Clarke :p a while ago it was Atapuma, this guy is just weird

He used to go on a lot about "little Louis Meintjes" a lot too :D

But now he has taken against Meintjes for leaving his mate Brian Smith's Dim Data and he portends all kind of doom for Meintjes at Lampre

Not as much doom as he portends for Pierre Rolland, who has disappointed Kirby so much he now can't talk about him withou adopting the tone of a bride jilted at the altar.

Facts is Meintjes and Rolland have been disappointing so far in 2016
hilarious when taking into account how much idiot vaughters had been bragging about him and how he trained professionally for the first time in this new team and how terrible europcar was :eek:
 
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Ataraxus said:
blackmamba said:
Ataraxus said:
Taxus4a said:
Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.

The thing is Henao (or any other GC contender) won't have to follow Kreuziger at all.
All Henao has to do, is follow AC when he attacks and drop him in the last hundred meters. Which I think he will given how strong he was today.

Contador is not the one who needs to attack here lets just straighten that out pretty quick. Its on Henao, Quintana etc to attack since their worse in the TT !

That beeing said im not saying he wont attack or anything cause afterall its Contador and ofc it would be good for him too to gain time on Samu, Kelderman, Pinot and everyone else buts its not do or die for him to gain time tomorrow which you can say for someone else lets just put it like that.

If AC won't attack he'll still very likely be dropped by Henao when the last k punches begin.
I don't see Kreuz being very important in this case either.

Kreuziger is the only man that tomorrow could make do a race from far. If after the forst climb contador attack and just quintana and henao followed, nobody is going to pull, with Kreuziger someone will giving continuity. They tried the same today too times, but if was difficult. If landa is there as well, as it is eay, maybe Tinkoff dont want to waste Kreuziger.
 
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Taxus4a said:
Ataraxus said:
blackmamba said:
Ataraxus said:
Taxus4a said:
Tomorrow key man is Kreuziger.

If he get the first climb to Arrate better than Landa, he will work later and we will find a small group in San Miguel, wich it would be new in this race.

Tomorrow is going to rain more than today and teams had to do a hard race to put people as Keldermann or Samu out ot the GC. But we saw today is difficult to ally Henao, Quintana and Contador.

I forgot Rui Costa in my previous analysys. He is still a dangerous man and more with rain.

The thing is Henao (or any other GC contender) won't have to follow Kreuziger at all.
All Henao has to do, is follow AC when he attacks and drop him in the last hundred meters. Which I think he will given how strong he was today.

Contador is not the one who needs to attack here lets just straighten that out pretty quick. Its on Henao, Quintana etc to attack since their worse in the TT !

That beeing said im not saying he wont attack or anything cause afterall its Contador and ofc it would be good for him too to gain time on Samu, Kelderman, Pinot and everyone else buts its not do or die for him to gain time tomorrow which you can say for someone else lets just put it like that.

If AC won't attack he'll still very likely be dropped by Henao when the last k punches begin.
I don't see Kreuz being very important in this case either.

Kreuziger is the only man that tomorrow could make do a race from far. If after the forst climb contador attack and just quintana and henao followed, nobody is going to pull, with Kreuziger someone will giving continuity. They tried the same today too times, but if was difficult. If landa is there as well, as it is eay, maybe Tinkoff dont want to waste Kreuziger.

Taxus I'll write my three points related to your comment and tomorrow's stage. Though I know you're going to write something not constructive to the dialogue we are making.
-If Kreuz attacks nobody will care coz he's 3:26 down.
-The only time Kreuz becomes important is if he's ahead and AC tries to gap the other riders. And I don't see this scenario happening in Arrate as I don't think AC can drop Henao there, au contraire.
-If Henao and Landa are together it will not be easy like you said (I don't know why you said that). It will be one two attacks.
 
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When discussing Tibopino's chances, tomorrow's stage was the one that on the paper suits him best IMO: the first 2km of the climb to Arrate should be enough for Pinot to get his diesel engine going. If he can build up for another 2km, he can attack or follow attacks before it eases up. How early will the other GC contenders make a move? The more they wait,the more dangerous Thibaut will be.

Still, I think that Contador is the favorite. A podium for Pinot is all but secured. Can he win?