Vuelta Ciclista a Andalucia - Ruta del Sol 2023 (February 15-19)

[Devil's Elbow]

I disagree. You win more time in the non climby parts cause there won't be any cooperation behind. Teuns and Rota will be 6th and 7th if the gap grows.

Well doesn't matter now ofcourse cause Mohoric will just ride.

The Landa group would always have cooperated because it contained solely team leaders. Everyone else wasn't coming back no matter what.

 

[Salvarani]

Mohoric attack on the descent?

Yes!

 

[BR2]

I think TV production is the same for all spanish pre-season races (Mallorca, Valencia, Andalucia...) At least the headings and words look the same (i.e. "COMPACT" for peloton).

I recall Valencia camera work was awful either last year or a couple of seasons ago, with extremely shaky images. I haven't felt it that way this year, but maybe it's just me that got used to it.

Yes, I have that issue in all of those races. It's the mixture of extremely shaky images and having close ups of the riders all the time. There's no longer stretch of road to look ahead, my eyes can't get a focus.

 

[Earns1985]

Isn’t Teuns as good as Pogacar on a finish like this

He wasted to much energy before the final climb so if he arrives together with Pogacar, Pogacar will take it, if you ask me.

 

[ruamruam]

UAE team weak today.

 

[Samamba]

The Landa group would always have cooperated because it contained solely team leaders. Everyone else wasn't coming back no matter what.

The point is that Teuns and Rota need a gap as big as they can on everyone behind (to make up for what they list yesterday). I ment behind the Landa group.

EDIT: Teuns and Zimmerman are literally the ones closing this down for example. It's in their best interest to make sure this group keeps riding.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Dutch commentator talking about Buitrageau is getting on my nerves.

 

[perico]

Wow, what a route. Seems like every stage is really worth tuning in for.

What happened to Enric guys?

Chain came off

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Are Bahrain planning on doing anything whatsoever with their numerical advantage?

 

[Samamba]

Caruso, Majka and Hart coming back.

Or Mohoric doesnt want his teammate back.

EDIT: they're further back than I thought.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Everyone has given up on doing anything other than riding for placements. On the second stage.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Teuns is playing this correctly not rolling through, not sure what Mas and Bahrain are doing, they need Bala yelling from the car in this situation.

 

[Tim Cahill]

You've got to let Pogacar close down these attacks, what are they doing

 

[KZD]

Mas pushed Pogačar, but he is just too strong.

 

[BR2]

Beautiful finish.

 

[Salvarani]

Pog wins again!

What a rider!

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Pog with ease in the end. Thought Mas looked better for a second but was swaying too much on the cobbles at the end.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Too easy for Pogacar.

 

[JosefK]

A fun season ahead for Pogi fans.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

A fun season ahead for Pogi fans.

A boring three stages ahead for everyone else.

Unlikely that UAE can control the breakaways three days running, if not, Pogacar has an excellent shot at sweeping all five stages. Only the final one is a question mark. Would be completely unparalleled in a decent-sized race in the past decades.

 

[JosefK]

It looks like there's a chance this could be in the bag.

 

[Earns1985]

A fun season ahead for Pogi fans.

Yeah and good thing for the others is that we will have Vingegaard for the Tour and van der Poel and van Aert for the classics to battle him, so hopefully this will be last race this season where he doesn´t have real competition..

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Yeah and good thing for the others is that we will have Vingegaard for the Tour and van der Poel and van Aert for the classics to battle him, so hopefully this will be last race this season where he doesn´t have real competition..

As things stand, the only races where he will face none of Van Aert, Van der Poel, Vingegaard or Evenepoel are Flèche (where his track record is meh anyway) and the Slovenian Open Rock-Paper-Scissors Championships.

 

[Carols]

This is a race for hardcore Pogi fans. Everyone else outclassed. If there is ever a new Eddy this is the guy!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Would be completely unparalleled in a decent-sized race in the past decades.

FIrst thing that comes to mind is ToB21 with 4/8 stages + GC. But that would still not be the same. On the other hand, three stages ahead still need to be raced.