Vuelta Stage 18: Suances → Santo Toribio de Liébana - 169 km

[Arredondo]

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Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

Pretty much. Actually insane...

maybe at le tour the sprinter team play a huge role , in this vuelta sprinters are not existing

Which is great. Sprinting is dead. It doesn't add something to a bike race. It's only an annoying suspension of what's actually important: the fight for GC.

Exactly. Its harder for the Tour tho, but its still no excuse really for this Tour.

The Vuelta made some very good changes over the past ten years. For sure, there are points to improve (maybe a few murito stages less and some more stages like Sagunt), but just look back at the '90's. The Vuelta had like 7 sprint stages in a row back then. Seven!

 

[Jagartrott]

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Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

This is really stage dependent, plenty of big and hard fought for breaks in Tour, just not on sprinter stages

And the sprint stages made up 50% of the total stages (excluding TT).
As said, insane.

No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Visconti

 

[MartinGT]

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Julian Alaphilippe, Matteo Trentin (Quick Step), Alessandro De Marchi (BMC), Magnus Cort Nielsen (Orica-Scott), Nelson Oliveira, Marc Soler (Movistar), Patrick Konrad (Bora-Hansgrohe), Clément Chevrier, Alexis Gougeard (AG2R-La Mondiale), Toms Skujins (Cannondale-Drapac), Antwan Tolhoek (LottoNL-Jumbo), Matej Mohoric (UAE Team Emirates), Alexey Lutsenko (Astana), Sander Armée (Lotto-Soudal), Giovanni Visconti (Bahrain-Merida), Jérémy Maison, Anthony Roux (FDJ), Stéphane Rossetto (Cofidis), Sergio Pardilla (Caja Rural-Seguros RGA) and Aldemar Reyes (Manzana-Postobón)

No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Could Movistar ride for Contador?

Visconti?

 

[telencefalus]

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Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

This is really stage dependent, plenty of big and hard fought for breaks in Tour, just not on sprinter stages

And the sprint stages made up 50% of the total stages (excluding TT).
As said, insane.

ok have stage that are not boring but if every stage is hard than winning back to back gt is impossible

 

[Forever The Best]

Fail from Trek

 

[Asturiano]

Break with 3 min:
Oliveira, Rossetto, Gougeard, Maison, Aguirre, Konrad, Skujins, Tolhoek, Trentin, Roux, Visconti, Chevrier, Alaphilippe, Mohoric, Lutsenko, Soler, Armée, Pardilla, Cort Nielsen and De Marchi

 

[telencefalus]

fantastic tepstra on fuente de 2012 , he said "contador cam so fast like a motorbike and the peloton exploded" Hope to see this again one last time either today Tomorrow or saturday

 

[killswitch]

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No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Visconti

Visconti rides for team Visconti.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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The star :lol: :
https://twitter.com/edwinwinkels/status/905743768284012544

Wow! Amazing!

In Vuelta extra on Eurosport, I just saw a nice item about Alberto's farewell. Brought tears to my eyes to see and hear the fans' support!

 

[MartinGT]

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No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Visconti

Visconti rides for team Visconti.

:lol:

 

[jarvo]

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Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

This is really stage dependent, plenty of big and hard fought for breaks in Tour, just not on sprinter stages

And the sprint stages made up 50% of the total stages (excluding TT).
As said, insane.

ok have stage that are not boring but if every stage is hard than winning back to back gt is impossible

Then let it be impossible, surely it is better to have a very enjoyable and watchable tour than one that is possible to win back to back. At a time when ever bigger sponsors are required to fund teams, surely the more exciting the racing the bigger the viewership will be and therefore the bigger the sponsorship deals that will come into the sport? I would prefer that teams are funded and do not fold than see back to back GT wins

 

[telencefalus]

the peloton now is pretty slow , PLEASE GO FAST if you want froome to crack

 

[Lexman]

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Julian Alaphilippe, Matteo Trentin (Quick Step), Alessandro De Marchi (BMC), Magnus Cort Nielsen (Orica-Scott), Nelson Oliveira, Marc Soler (Movistar), Patrick Konrad (Bora-Hansgrohe), Clément Chevrier, Alexis Gougeard (AG2R-La Mondiale), Toms Skujins (Cannondale-Drapac), Antwan Tolhoek (LottoNL-Jumbo), Matej Mohoric (UAE Team Emirates), Alexey Lutsenko (Astana), Sander Armée (Lotto-Soudal), Giovanni Visconti (Bahrain-Merida), Jérémy Maison, Anthony Roux (FDJ), Stéphane Rossetto (Cofidis), Sergio Pardilla (Caja Rural-Seguros RGA) and Aldemar Reyes (Manzana-Postobón)

No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Could Movistar ride for Contador?

Visconti?

Oh indeed I oversaw him...

 

[telencefalus]

soler of movistar said that his will be a very funny day , he know something we do not ....who knows

 

[Lexman]

Lo dice @jarlinsonpantan del @TrekSegafredo : "Estas etapas le gustan a @albertocontador" #LV2017 pic.twitter.com/YVqQYFFUSL

if that's the case they'd better ride sooner to reel in the break...

 

[telencefalus]

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Julian Alaphilippe, Matteo Trentin (Quick Step), Alessandro De Marchi (BMC), Magnus Cort Nielsen (Orica-Scott), Nelson Oliveira, Marc Soler (Movistar), Patrick Konrad (Bora-Hansgrohe), Clément Chevrier, Alexis Gougeard (AG2R-La Mondiale), Toms Skujins (Cannondale-Drapac), Antwan Tolhoek (LottoNL-Jumbo), Matej Mohoric (UAE Team Emirates), Alexey Lutsenko (Astana), Sander Armée (Lotto-Soudal), Giovanni Visconti (Bahrain-Merida), Jérémy Maison, Anthony Roux (FDJ), Stéphane Rossetto (Cofidis), Sergio Pardilla (Caja Rural-Seguros RGA) and Aldemar Reyes (Manzana-Postobón)

No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Could Movistar ride for Contador?

Visconti?

Oh indeed I oversaw him...

Visconti has to do something for Nibali at the giro he was so selfish

 

[Climbing]

Seems there is no ambush in the making.

 

[jsem94]

Peloton sits up.

 

[TommyGun]

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The star :lol: :
https://twitter.com/edwinwinkels/status/905743768284012544

Wow! Amazing!

In Vuelta extra on Eurosport, I just saw a nice item about Alberto's farewell. Brought tears to my eyes to see and hear the fans' support!

This is what we call the People's Champion!
Something that the millions of Sky Team can never buy.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Seems there is no ambush in the making.

Hard to tell now. look at the last 60 kms of the stage.

 

[telencefalus]

that's a pity that the breakway was formed , now sky sits in front of the peloton and in FROOME INTEREST they slow down , BORING and this let froome is good position

 

[portugal11]

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Seems there is no ambush in the making.

Hard to tell now. look at the last 60 kms of the stage.

Escarabajo is right. Bahrain will work

 

[Climbing]

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Seems there is no ambush in the making.

Hard to tell now. look at the last 60 kms of the stage.

Yep, but I mean don't see much support in the breakaway to open captains attacks.

 

[telencefalus]

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Seems there is no ambush in the making.

Hard to tell now. look at the last 60 kms of the stage.[/quote
you are right , but the fact that team sky is in front make the breakway favourite to win the stage , and that's a pity

 

[telencefalus]

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Seems there is no ambush in the making.

Hard to tell now. look at the last 60 kms of the stage.

Yep, but I mean don't see much support in the breakaway to open captains attacks.

this breakaway is pretty don't know how to define , but two things are certain , trentin wanting the points and Visconti helping Nibali ? I just hope so Visconti don't ride for ourself please , Nibali could win the Whole thing