WC 2012: U-23 Men and Elite Women Road Races

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Eshnar said:
Problem is that, even if you are Contador, you can't stay away from a full, fresh peloton. As long as air drag plays a role, you're screwed. If there is no flat, only climbs above 9% gradient, only technical descents... maybe a short stage could be good (or at least as good as a longer one)

I remember that there were no peloton on Galibier, riders were all over the place. On Galibier, mostly Evans was pulling everyone because nobody else wont work so it is not like domestiques were against Contador and Europcar brought everybody back before Alpe (How the hell they had 3-4 guys on that group I still dont know)
 
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burning said:
I remember that there were no peloton on Galibier, riders were all over the place. On Galibier, mostly Evans was pulling everyone because nobody else wont work so it is not like domestiques were against Contador and Europcar brought everybody back before Alpe (How the hell they had 3-4 guys on that group I still dont know)
You probly are confusing the two sides of the Galibier :p
Evans was pulling the peloton in the MTF to the Galibier.
In the stage of L'Alpe, Evans first stayed with AC, than he had a mechanical and just sat down behind his domestiques who pulled the peloton all the way to the top.
 
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Evans pulled for a few kms after Valloire, dropped Voeckler etc. Samu attacked, Evans was the next over the top.
 
Mar 24, 2011
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Ferminal said:
Evans pulled for a few kms after Valloire, dropped Voeckler etc. Samu attacked, Evans was the next over the top.
Oh, forgot about that.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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El Pistolero said:
You think Milan-San Remo has been a sprinters race for a century?

You know nothing about cycling

I chose 2008 as a starting point because they added a new climb in 2008(Le Manie) and this climb has caused the selection at least 2 times since then.

At least try to pretend you know something about Milan-San Remo. ;)

Since 2003 5 editions have been bunch sprints and 5 have been won solo or in a small group


So MSR has not become more of a sprinters race with time? I Must have dreamt that Cav won it a few years back.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Eshnar said:
Problem is that, even if you are Contador, you can't stay away from a full, fresh peloton. As long as air drag plays a role, you're screwed. If there is no flat, only climbs above 9% gradient, only technical descents... maybe a short stage could be good (or at least as good as a longer one)

What about these?

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Jul 16, 2010
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The Hitch said:
So MSR has not become more of a sprinters race with time? I Must have dreamt that Cav won it a few years back.

In the same way people call Paris-Tours a sprinter classic maybe. ;)
 
Jun 14, 2010
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El Pistolero said:
In the same way people call Paris-Tours a sprinter classic maybe. ;)

Who called MSR a sprinters classic?

We are going to need a bit more than some weak *** deflection attempt to justify you going full *** again

The Hitch said:
MSR has become more and more of a spritners race as power in the peloton has increased.


El Pistolero said:
At least try to pretend you know something about Milan-San Remo.

El Pistolero said:
you really know nothing about this sport!:
 
Aug 29, 2011
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Lol MSR has generally been becoming more of a sprinter's race, but the last few years this has not been the case as much.

Perhaps it really is due to the new climb, but I think it's more of a coincidence since 2011 and 2012 both had crashes.
 
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Is anyone watching the whole women's race? Where I am (Eastern Canada), there's no TV coverage and I'm having problem connecting with Procycling Live.
 
Jul 16, 2010
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The Hitch said:
Who called MSR a sprinters classic?

We are going to need a bit more than some weak *** deflection attempt to justify you going full *** again

You said MSR has become more and more of a sprinter race while the opposite trend has been happening.

You know what I call weak deflection? All your posts. Calling MSR a sprinter race is just the same as calling it a sprinter classic. And actually read my post, I was talking about the people who call Paris-Tours a sprinter classic.

Since the addition of Le Manie MSR has been less of a sprinter race than during the late 90s. That's a fact. Erik Zabel is gone, thank god.
 
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burning said:
I remember that there were no peloton on Galibier, riders were all over the place. On Galibier, mostly Evans was pulling everyone because nobody else wont work so it is not like domestiques were against Contador and Europcar brought everybody back before Alpe (How the hell they had 3-4 guys on that group I still dont know)

Because the stage was too short and riders were fresh.
 
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El Pistolero said:
You said MSR has become more and more of a sprinter race while the opposite trend has been happening.

So Msr did not become more of a sprinters race over recent decades? You are entitled to your opinion, but it doesnt seem many people agree with you


Panda Claws said:
Lol MSR has generally been becoming more of a sprinter's race..
 
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Panda Claws said:
Lol MSR has generally been becoming more of a sprinter's race, but the last few years this has not been the case as much.

Perhaps it really is due to the new climb, but I think it's more of a coincidence since 2011 and 2012 both had crashes.

Le Manie has a very tricky descent. ;)
 
Feb 16, 2010
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Susan Westemeyer said:
The ladies race has started.
there doesn't seem to be a break - just an enormous Peloton - is that standard for woman's circuit races? Not breathtakingly interesting yet!
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
there doesn't seem to be a break - just an enormous Peloton - is that standard for woman's circuit races? Not breathtakingly interesting yet!

Situation normal. Don't expect much until the last lap.