What are these mysterious pills found on the roadside at Paris-Roubaix?

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Yes, you should. Your characterization of my thoughts is beyond idiotic. Why you feel the need to pull my name into this discussion is beyond me.

You think I don´t read your posts? You used me in your posts unrelated to a thread topic, but I shouldn´t use you?
What goes around, comes around... from time to time.

To the topic:
If those pills were no big deal, one wonders why "test" is written on them. I guess a major blunder. It´s not the first time in cycling...

 

[red_flanders]

You think I don´t read your posts? You used me in your posts unrelated to a thread topic, but I shouldn´t use you?
What goes around, comes around... from time to time.

Please link to where I've done this. If I have I apologize. I can't imagine the circumstances under which I would.

Your thoughts on my thoughts about top riders have NOTHING to do with the topic. Never mind the utter mis-characterization of my positions.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Please link to where I've done this. If I have I apologize. I can't imagine the circumstances under which I would.

Your thoughts on my thoughts about top riders have NOTHING to do with the topic. Never mind the utter mis-characterization of my positions.

Here it comes:

This is why I like Horner. He genuinely appears to be having fun, and his positivity is infectious. Just an enjoyable rider.

I think most of the top contenders are dirty. I sincerely wish they were not, but I'm convinced there were no top-5s and few if any top-10s in last year's Grand Tours.

So if I am going to watch GTs and root, and I am, I invariably end up feeling favor toward someone.

I like Horner's personality and riding style more than anyone else currently in GT contention. I wish he were clean and I wish his competitors were. They ain't.

So if you understand all that, you can call at least me a Horner Fanboy with my blessing.

It would be nice if all the Sky fanboys would face reality as well. Then I wouldn't give a **** who didn't like Horner. But calling out Horner and those who root for him while defending Sky and whining about "bashing" is a joke.

 

[DirtyWorks]

'Finish bottles' are a big thing in the peloton according to Phinney.

Way, waaaaaay before Phinney too. The sport is 100+ years old. 99 of those years had riders taking some real or imagined PED.

Having an extra boost for the end seems like a perfectly fine reason to carry something that looks like it could possibly be some kind of PED. It could be a placebo too. No way to know without someone getting it analyzed. Hopefully, there's enough to identify whatever it is.

If this is real, results should be sent to WADA. Linking to the UCI and Cookson was probably a terrible idea.

 

[sniper]

You think I don´t read your posts? You used me in your posts unrelated to a thread topic, but I shouldn´t use you?
What goes around, comes around... from time to time.

To the topic:
If those pills were no big deal, one wonders why "test" is written on them. I guess a major blunder. It´s not the first time in cycling...

not sure if it's a blunder.
the peloton seems to be charging without much qualms in cookson's first year.

 

[the sceptic]

I´d have no problems if guys like sceptic and redflanders would have a reasonable straight forward approach like Benotti or Hog (who think that basically everybody in the high ranks dope. It´s a fair point after all those scandals). But no, they just hack away the same old song, mixing it with personal insults, but zilch infos, reasonable arguments or evidence... It´s not anti doping thinking, but "your doper is worse than mine".
"Redflanders" honestly confirmed his love for CH, even though he thinks he´s doping. And for sceptic all is good as long the so-called Skybots get bested. No matter who that is or with which methods that goal is achieved. It ends in grotesque ideas that Sky started a doping arms race anew, and that CH had to dope upfront before Sky even hit the scene.

Anyway, now I think we shall get back to the topic...

I used to think you were a troll, but now im starting to think you might just be incredibly dense.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

not sure if it's a blunder.
the peloton seems to be charging without much qualms in cookson's first year.

The blunder having a "test kit" with them. I mean that´s stupid (not at least having a neutral unobtrusive box). OTOH, they may feel as safe as ever before. Just reminds me of Voets book (or was it Kimmage?) that while riding the injection for extra boost happened right in the race. Now it´s a little more sophisticated , they just take pills under way.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I used to think you were a troll, but now im starting to think you might just be incredibly dense.

Are you on cleans or what? You are not worth the $hit you write...

 

[Nathan12]

Should be fairly easy to tell which rider it came from.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Should be fairly easy to tell which rider it came from.

How?

10 chars

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Should be fairly easy to tell which rider it came from.

hmmm, how?

 

[Ventoux Boar]

^ CSI Roubaix.

 

[red_flanders]

Here it comes:

Are you for real? Here is what you said:

You think I don´t read your posts? You used me in your posts unrelated to a thread topic, but I shouldn´t use you?
What goes around, comes around... from time to time.

To which I asked for a link, as I can't imagine having done this. And you respond with my take on Horner.

I'm not sure what one is to make of that.

 

[Nathan12]

hmmm, how?

Well, they must have picked it up from a specific point on the course. So what crash happened there? Who was involved? Who had a badly ripped jersey? Can't be that many riders to choose from after that.

 

[red_flanders]

Well, they must have picked it up from a specific point on the course. So what crash happened there? Who was involved? Who had a badly ripped jersey? Can't be that many riders to choose from after that.

It could have bounced out of anyone's kit and gotten run over. Or be from a spectator. Don't see how you could know unless you saw it fall out.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Well, they must have picked it up from a specific point on the course. So what crash happened there? Who was involved? Who had a badly ripped jersey? Can't be that many riders to choose from after that.

So lets take the three riders involved to a basement somewhere and apply a bit of sweet talk....

 

[Nathan12]

It could have bounced out of anyone's kit and gotten run over. Or be from a spectator. Don't see how you could know unless you saw it fall out.

True. I would make a **** detective.

 

[HSNHSN]

It could have bounced out of anyone's kit and gotten run over. Or be from a spectator. Don't see how you could know unless you saw it fall out.

The location of the fall will probably tell a lot, though. Anyway, I'm still more curious to an analysis of the contents of that vial. Looks like there's quite some material still in there, so could be worth something.

 

[Nathan12]

So lets take the three riders involved to a basement somewhere and apply a bit of sweet talk....

Pulp fiction style.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Are you for real? Here is what you said:



To which I asked for a link, as I can't imagine having done this. And you respond with my take on Horner.

I'm not sure what one is to make of that.

My mistake, I thought you meant the CH stories...
Well, times you called me names when I didn´t agree with your points (especially in the two CH threads). Times you did it indirect, thus the following post can only be understood in context. But if you are honest, you´d admit that your temper got trou with you when I came up with numbers and results to debunk the simplistic black/white POV that solely is made on Froome/Sky.

I think it's long time we all stopped engaging people who are making consistently nonsensical arguments. Clearly no rational thought is going to make a difference, and offering such just provides a platform for more nonsense.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Pulp fiction style.

amen to that

 

[The Hitch]

Doping, in the mid 2010's is a conspiracy. They may have ridden around with drugs in his pockets, but after Festina, Puerto, Landis, Armstrong, etc no one is going to do it.

Dopers will be found through the occasional slip up or police raids, not drugs being found in race.

 

[D-Queued]

Doping, in the mid 2010's is a conspiracy. They may have ridden around with drugs in his pockets, but after Festina, Puerto, Landis, Armstrong, etc no one is going to do it.

Dopers will be found through the occasional slip up or police raids, not drugs being found in race.

There you go again. (NOT a personal attack... just an expression)

Applying logic and intelligence to counter culture and practice.

Maybe 99% of the peloton got the memo, but there will always be some idiot looking to prove themselves who thinks that they can get away with anything.

Thus, your insights are sound but we are dealing with dunces.

Dave.

 

[red_flanders]

Doping, in the mid 2010's is a conspiracy. They may have ridden around with drugs in his pockets, but after Festina, Puerto, Landis, Armstrong, etc no one is going to do it.

Dopers will be found through the occasional slip up or police raids, not drugs being found in race.

I don't know. I've seen the "But they would never be THAT dumb" argument fail enough times to believe riders would do just about anything.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

There you go again. (NOT a personal attack... just an expression)

Applying logic and intelligence to counter culture and practice.

Maybe 99% of the peloton got the memo, but there will always be some idiot looking to prove themselves who thinks that they can get away with anything.

Thus, your insights are sound but we are dealing with dunces.

Dave.

Correct, 100's of thousand of kms looking down at the tarmac will do that to you, hell I can confirm the moments of clarity becomes sporadic.

Pro cycling really isn't any different to any other profession where some will try a get a head start.