What are these mysterious pills found on the roadside at Paris-Roubaix?

[MartinGT]

Has anyone asked Fran about the 'pill' thats in Wiggo's shorts?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Caffeine, glucose, sodium, you name it, it could be any number of perfectly legitimate things. Just another red herring for the internet crusaders to get their teeth into.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...etting-the-pill-culture-out-of-the-sport.aspx

 

[MartinGT]

Caffeine, glucose, sodium, you name it, it could be any number of perfectly legitimate things. Just another red herring for the internet crusaders to get their teeth into.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...etting-the-pill-culture-out-of-the-sport.aspx

Oh I dont doubt it. But why even put the seed out there for people to question it?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Yeah but if you don't think it's anything illegal why are you asking someone to tweet Fran Millar about it? Just for some trolling lulz?

As for feeding internet chatter, why should Wiggins care if a picture like that gets out there? The chatter continues unabated whatever he does, if he has a legal painkiller or a caffeine pill for a late-race boost why should he have to hide it? And if he was hiding it wouldn't you be more suspicious?

 

[hrotha]

I'm all for posting that pic of Wiggo with the pill, as long as everyone understands it's just a joke. If we're going to get serious about it and speculate, well, that's a waste of time.

 

[JimmyFingers]

The clinic spent a week discussing a suit he wore to an awards ceremony once, and a picture of him on holiday smoking a roll up. Why should it stop wasting its time now?

 

[the sceptic]

The clinic spent a week discussing a suit he wore to an awards ceremony once, and a picture of him on holiday smoking a roll up. Why should it stop wasting its time now?

Calm down Jimmy. Its just funny that Wiggins is spotted with a vial and then a week later its found at the Paris-Roubaix roadside.

No one is saying there is a connection. There is no way to know that. But its still a funny coincidence.

 

[martinvickers]

Calm down Jimmy. Its just funny that Wiggins is spotted with a vial and then a week later its found at the Paris-Roubaix roadside.

No one is saying there is a connection. There is no way to know that. But its still a funny coincidence.

He was spotted with a pill, not a vial. Jeez, at least try and get the basics right...

 

[JimmyFingers]

Calm down Jimmy. Its just funny that Wiggins is spotted with a vial and then a week later its found at the Paris-Roubaix roadside.

No one is saying there is a connection. There is no way to know that. But its still a funny coincidence.

You say funny, I say meh

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

don't feel like reading through 2 pages of bs and conspiracies but any proove yet the person who claimed he found this after a crash that he actually picked it up at a crash and didn't just make this up? video of the crash and him picking up? eye witnesses? seems fake like hell

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Do not see why it would have had to come from a rider...could've dropped from a car...spectator..could've been there for a year..

and the label "TEST PRODUCT"
gheez...might have well said "ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE" :roll eyes:


as usual what could have been an interesting discussion gets turned into a playpen throwing brawl

Par for the course on CN

 

[hiero2]

Yes, you should. Your characterization of my thoughts is beyond idiotic. Why you feel the need to pull my name into this discussion is beyond me.

Hehehehe. Yeah - but you can't troll unless you drag other people, in, now can you!

Och, I meant "incite", not troll. Och, no, I mean "argue"!

Anyway, fun reading the exchange.

You know, a thought occurs to me - the OP said the bottle had a barcode. Anybody think to check and see what the barcode tells us? Might not be useful, but then again, it might.

Another thought occurs to me - this could also be a big setup by somebody with a warped sense of "humor". We've got lots of those around. And reading the last couple posts, I'm not the only one thinking this might have been posted with April 1 in mind.

 

[Catwhoorg]

ld also be a big setup by somebody with a warped sense of "humor". We've got lots of those around. And reading the last couple posts, I'm not the only one thinking this might have been posted with April 1 in mind.

Of course it could be a set-up.

 

[Clausfarre]

don't feel like reading through 2 pages of bs and conspiracies but any proove yet the person who claimed he found this after a crash that he actually picked it up at a crash and didn't just make this up? video of the crash and him picking up? eye witnesses? seems fake like hell

Exactly. Evidence, witnesses, something....

 

[gooner]

The guy who found this has been talking to The Telegraph about it. He knows who had it too.

Speaking to the Telegraph on Wednesday, Brampton would not say from which rider’s jersey the vial fell, or even where on the route the crash occurred, but he did say that he knew exactly to whom it belonged and would provide that information to UKAD as well.

“Basically the crash happened and then they all got up and the soigneur pushed the rider [in question] away,” he said. “I’d already spotted the vial, as had others. It was actually pointed out to the soigneur who sort of shrugged his shoulders as if to say ‘nothing to do with me’.

“I’d rather not say who was involved or where exactly it happened but it was roughly halfway through the race between cobbled sections, not on a cobbled section itself.

“It will absolutely be possible to pinpoint who the vial belongs to. I have 34 in-sequence photographs from about 15ft away, pin sharp. In one of them you can actually see the vial falling from the rider’s pocket.

"Though there is one shot missing which is of me picking up the vial – that is because the voiture balai [broom wagon] was about to run me over and obscured the shot.”

While there is nothing to indicate that that vial contained banned substances, the scepticism that surrounds cycling following years of doping scandals naturally means that any such discovery is treated with suspicion.

Brampton said he hoped that would not come to pass. “Whatever it is, it’s official. There was a torn bar code on it,” he said.

“I’ve spoken to UKAD twice today and they are taking it very seriously. They are sending someone down tomorrow so they can bag it, seal it and have it tested. But I’m sure it’s nothing sinister. Well, I’d like to think not.

"Some people have been critical of my decision to make this public but my genuine hope, as I’m sure it is of most cycling fans, is that it turns out to be absolutely nothing and the powder is something like magnesium or beta-Alanine or something else not on the banned list.”

UKAD was unavailable for comment on Wednesday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...ls-on-road-following-Paris-Roubaix-crash.html

 

[red_flanders]

The guy who found this has been talking to The Telegraph about it. He knows who had it too.

Well, there you go. Sounds like a well-documented find.

Why he's "sure it's nothing sinister" is curious. Why would he be sure either way?

I know when I'm riding I carry around vials marked thusly all the time. Totally normal. I'm sure we'll get the all-clear from UKAD in short order.

 

[the sceptic]

Why he's "sure it's nothing sinister" is curious. Why would he be sure either way?

A wild guess..

The only way a brit can be sure about this would be if the rider in question is a brit himself, or possibly from the new clean generation.

So maybe it is Wiggo after all.

 

[Race Radio]

“It will absolutely be possible to pinpoint who the vial belongs to. I have 34 in-sequence photographs from about 15ft away, pin sharp. In one of them you can actually see the vial falling from the rider’s pocket.

OK, show of hands. How many here are hoping, praying, it is a Sky rider?

How is it there is not a poll on this yet?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

OK, show of hands. How many here are hoping, praying, it is a Sky rider?

How is it there is not a poll on this yet?

lol, I do prefer a stepper stepping forward.

 

[the sceptic]

OK, show of hands. How many here are hoping, praying, it is a Sky rider?

How is it there is not a poll on this yet?

If it was a sky rider, then we must account for the possibility that a tailwind could have blown the vial from the pocket of another rider and thus landed in the sky riders pocket.

I think a garmin rider would be more fun though. David Millar would be perfect.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Thanks for that update Gooner.

 

[mewmewmew13]

just checking in here to see how far it's come

the game is afoot!
carry on!

 

[HSNHSN]

Well, there you go. Sounds like a well-documented find.

Why he's "sure it's nothing sinister" is curious. Why would he be sure either way?

I know when I'm riding I carry around vials marked thusly all the time. Totally normal. I'm sure we'll get the all-clear from UKAD in short order.

It may be a combination of things. If it's a rider he somehow trusts, it's a fair hint into that direction. The fact that the soigneur didn't bother about it at all is a far greater hint, though. If it were a doping product, he might've been bothered a lot more. If it had been picked up, the only evidence of it ever happening would've been a photo where you see a vial falling from a rider's pocket. Now there is the actual vial with contents.

 

[red_flanders]

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The fact that the soigneur didn't bother about it at all is a far greater hint, though. If it were a doping product, he might've been bothered a lot more. If it had been picked up, the only evidence of it ever happening would've been a photo where you see a vial falling from a rider's pocket. Now there is the actual vial with contents.

That makes some sense...

 

[biokemguy]

Riders are testing new equipment all the time.

Seems just as likely that this is a test formulation of some electrolyte pill or other legal supplement as it is some nefarious new doping product.