brewerjeff said:![]()
I usually stick to what I brew at home. See above.
nice.very nice.
brewerjeff said:![]()
I usually stick to what I brew at home. See above.
knewcleardaze said:Now that I think about it, I don't recall the last time I refused a beer.
pedaling squares said:Was in Seattle the other night and had the chance to try my first Belgian ale. Duvel, I recognized it from this thread. It was... ok. Kind of like "La fin du monde" from Quebec. Light, fruity, strong, it was decent but I was not sure if I liked it enough to order another. Then the bus boy poured water in my nearly empty beer glass et voila, I had one more chance to savour and evaluate.
I'm going back there in a few weeks and will visit the Stumbling Monk, a bar that specializes in Belgian ales, including Trappist. Can anyone recommend some Belgian beers that are more in line with my love of Irish ale, or am I just going to have to gain an appreciation of a whole different style of beer?
Bag_O_Wallet said:I'd guide you away from the tripels (which are bright and bubbly blondes) and guide you towards the darker stuff... like dubbels and quadrupels or for a lack of a better term the Belgian strong ales.
Selection is fairly limited here in Ontario, but the darker Belgian's that I've had and REALLY enjoyed are:
Chimay - Red/Premiere and Blue/Grande Reserve (Trappist)
Westmalle Dubbel (Trappist)
Konigshoeven Dubbel and Quadrupel (Dutch, but Trappist)
Rochefort 8 (Trappist)
St. Bernardus Abt 12 (not Trappist, but you could fool me)
Oh, and Unibroue (from Quebec) makes a respecatble dubbel - Maudite.
I hope you have a chance to try a few of these.
Scott SoCal said:Great call BOWallett.
100% agree. The tripels tend towards a complex fruit/hoppiness that takes a little getting used to. Although there are exceptions such as Tripel Karmeliet (golden in color, fruity and hints of carmel) and Gulden Draak (Gold Dragon) that is an unusual dark tripel that explodes your taste buds. Good luck trying to figure out what you are tasting with that one. I think both of those are phenomenal.
Also, maybe add Rochefort 10 to the list above... just make sure they don't pour the whole bottle in the glass as there is sediment/yeast in the bottom. In fact, that may have been part of the problem with the Duvel that was tried. It is a "living" beer and the yeast changes its' flavor if it finds it's way in to the poured glass.
Finally, the biggest problems you will have with Belgian beer is that it is generally not poured properly and served too cold.
Hugh Januss said:Ahh, a topic upon which we can be in complete agreement.![]()
Scott SoCal said:Great call BOWallet.
100% agree. The tripels tend towards a complex fruit/hoppiness that takes a little getting used to. Although there are exceptions such as Tripel Karmeliet (golden in color, fruity and hints of carmel) and Gulden Draak (Gold Dragon) that is an unusual dark tripel that explodes your taste buds. Good luck trying to figure out what you are tasting with that one. I think both of those are phenomenal.
Also, maybe add Rochefort 10 to the list above... just make sure they don't pour the whole bottle in the glass as there is sediment/yeast in the bottom. In fact, that may have been part of the problem with the Duvel that was tried. It is a "living" beer and the yeast changes its' flavor if it finds it's way in to the poured glass.
Finally, the biggest problems you will have with Belgian beer is that it is generally not poured properly and served too cold.
Bag_O_Wallet said:Thanks SoCal. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a gold dragon.
Rock7586 said:I haven't been to belgum, but here in southern california I think we have a palce that at least treats beer like they do.
http://www.thebackabbey.com/
Fantastic
usedtobefast said:
Kingsley A said:Interesting to see several India Pale Ales on that list as well as a porter. These styles have been out of favour here now for a long time. Greene King is pretty much the only major brewery in the UK now that has an IPA and I don't recall the last time I saw a porter other than bottled in an off-licence.
It seems CAMRA may need to visit California and buck up their ideas!
Scott SoCal said:Kinda like pizza. Some are ok, some are incredible, but all are edible.
Scott SoCal said:I had a chance to have one of these, Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock;
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Random review -
"Real dark walnut colour nearly opaque with a great tan head that slowly dissipates leaving a decent lacing.
Aromas of molasses toasted malt and faint date scent in the background. Also quite a few doughy notes coming through.
Tastes like a combination of roasted hazelnuts molasses and some type of nut brittle all with a slightly darker tone too it. Finishes with a little bit of drying hops but not too much, definitely still a little sweet towards the finish as well as up front, but plenty of roasty balance to it.
Great smooth weighty feel to this beer, carries the intense roasted flavours very well thanks to this and goes down very very smooth.
For such an intense beer goes down very easily and carries the alcohol well"
If you can find one of these, by all means, try it.![]()