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Bonkstrong

Bonkstrong

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Having watched the replay it's clear to see he has a higher cadence and a shorter left hand crank, I think we can all agree on that.
 
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bicing said:
Dry and humid? Sounds like oxymoron conditions.
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:) Ha, that was what crossed my mind too. Seriously though, it doesn't help to yelp 'foul' everytime someone pulls off a teriffic performance. Sheesh. For a little x reference, look how the times for runners have escalated, which is not so reliant on 'tech' advances over the years. ....(but I am not implying that running is a totally 'clean' discipline by any means).
 
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Anyone here old enough to remember the track conditions in Moscow in the late 80s?

They had the ventilators turned to the direction of travel, but would only turn them on for the Soviets... Small advantage, LOTS of world records.

In track the conditions make a HUGE difference. This is far different than the world of road racing. One guy, one bike, one track (or maybe two tracks, if you're a local), and pin it...

Maybe buddy did it unaided, maybe he was as lucky as Boardman feels he was (in regards to meteorogical conditions), maybe the fluke of timing really makes a difference...

I'll stay mum until something comes up, he is one of JV's boys afterall...
 
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TeamSkyFans said:
Fast track, warm dry and humid. Perfect conditions.

Id like to see Bobridge get that time on a wet cold afternoon in Manchester.
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dry and humid? A bit of an oxymoron, no?
 
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JMBeaushrimp said:
Anyone here old enough to remember the track conditions in Moscow in the late 80s?

They had the ventilators turned to the direction of travel, but would only turn them on for the Soviets... Small advantage, LOTS of world records.

In track the conditions make a HUGE difference. This is far different than the world of road racing. One guy, one bike, one track (or maybe two tracks, if you're a local), and pin it...

Maybe buddy did it unaided, maybe he was as lucky as Boardman feels he was (in regards to meteorogical conditions), maybe the fluke of timing really makes a difference...

I'll stay mum until something comes up, he is one of JV's boys afterall...
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Yes, I remember the Moscow velodrome, it was built for the 1980 olympics.
As a contrast, the winning 4k team pursuit on that track at the Olympics was a 4:14, so Bobridge would have been a good way up on the whole Russian team.:)

No reason to believe Bobridge's ride wasn't on the level, and if it was then he must have a huge engine. Being in his early twenties, he has plenty of years to add more endurance. If he isn't something special in a few years time, I will be wondering why.
 
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andy1234 said:
Yes, I remember the Moscow velodrome, it was built for the 1980 olympics.
As a contrast, the winning 4k team pursuit on that track at the Olympics was a 4:14, so Bobridge would have been a good way up on the whole Russian team.:)

No reason to believe Bobridge's ride wasn't on the level, and if it was then he must have a huge engine. Being in his early twenties, he has plenty of years to add more endurance. If he isn't something special in a few years time, I will be wondering why.
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They had a new recirc system put in in the late 80s. Even better...
 
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We're talking about the highest quality of Pursuiters in Australia (and clearly some of the best in the world) so I'd be more surprised if a Sprint specialist was posting this time.

I was infield for the ride and the temperatures in there have been pretty shocking. I'm liking the "dry and humid" oxymoron going around but the air is thick and you break out in a sweat walking 100m.
 
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JMBeaushrimp

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NickBVK said:
We're talking about the highest quality of Pursuiters in Australia (and clearly some of the best in the world) so I'd be more surprised if a Sprint specialist was posting this time.

I was infield for the ride and the temperatures in there have been pretty shocking. I'm liking the "dry and humid" oxymoron going around but the air is thick and you break out in a sweat walking 100m.
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Alright, if the conditions weren't ideal... What then?
 
mewmewmew13

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Originally Posted by TeamSkyFans
"Fast track, warm dry and humid. Perfect conditions.

Id like to see Bobridge get that time on a wet cold afternoon in Manchester"

ok, since we all do typos, on the lighter side....TeamSkyFans probably meant "fast track, warm DAY and humid. My editorial obsessiveness showing.....

aarghhh..can't get out of italic mode...
 
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NickBVK said:
We're talking about the highest quality of Pursuiters in Australia (and clearly some of the best in the world) so I'd be more surprised if a Sprint specialist was posting this time.

I was infield for the ride and the temperatures in there have been pretty shocking. I'm liking the "dry and humid" oxymoron going around but the air is thick and you break out in a sweat walking 100m.
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So what are you saying? The conditions weren't ideal and you are not surprise that Bobridge broke the record anyway?
 
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i know quite a few people who set PBs this week at the national champs, the track is unbelieveably fast at the moment
 
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barn yard said:
i know quite a few people who set PBs this week at the national champs, the track is unbelieveably fast at the moment
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or maybe their PED dealer just recently visited town
 
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Lower air density makes people go faster. Higher temperature lowers air density as does high humidity. In Sydney on Tuesday, temperatures in western suburbs were above 40 Celcius, at above 80% humidity. Uncomfortable to say the least, but about as fast as you can get for pursuiting I'd say. Note the top 2 in the evening were 4 seconds slower.

Interesting to see how much difference it makes. Regardless 4.10 is lightning.

PS interesting the top 2 had this result but 3 was about even and 4 slipped 2 seconds. Maybe Hepburn rode a schedule for 4:18 despite condidtions, and missed an opportunity in the morning?
 
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I think it was just perfect conditions for him, scientifically it's basic thermodynamics as air temperature increases it's density decreases.

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karlboss said:
Lower air density makes people go faster. Higher temperature lowers air density as does high humidity. In Sydney on Tuesday, temperatures in western suburbs were above 40 Celcius, at above 80% humidity. Uncomfortable to say the least, but about as fast as you can get for pursuiting I'd say. Note the top 2 in the evening were 4 seconds slower.

Interesting to see how much difference it makes. Regardless 4.10 is lightning.
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Super fast conditions and a young athlete in best form of his life. Great results create questions but in this case I would back Bobridge 100% to be clean.
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