What tactic does Cancellara use now?

[Froome19]

Its true that Canc dropped everyone except chavanel in flanders last year. Im sure chavanel will be strong this year again.

Cancellara did not drop everyone in flanders last year, he attacked and caught up with chavanel
Would you call, the BOD as having dropped everyone else?

 

[maltiv]

Cancellara did not drop everyone in flanders last year, he attacked

He attacked, almost all favorites tried to follow and they were dropped. Simple as that.

 

[Froome19]

He attacked, almost all favorites tried to follow and they were dropped. Simple as that.

Whatever you say the fact is you cant say that chavanel was the strongest due to the fact he wasnt dropped by canc as it was in a totally different scenario.

 

[Swede1]

Cancellara did not drop everyone in flanders last year, he attacked and caught up with chavanel
Would you call, the BOD as having dropped everyone else?

When he attacked all of the favorites tried to follow but couldnt. And when he caught up to chavanel he was flying yet chavanel stayed with him. So yes it wasnt as hard of an attack, but still chavanel had to be strong.

 

[thehog]

Was master tactician Bruyneel in the car? or is he still too scared to go to Italy?

 

[killswitch]

Was master tactician Bruyneel in the car? or is he still too scared to go to Italy?

Yep. There is a picture with him in the gallery on the RSNT site.

From his twitter http://twitter.com/#!/johanbruyneel:

@antmccrossan - helicopter, then private jet! No, just kidding... Team bus to Nice, the BA to Heathrow.

And finally, for some people who are so curious: i'm back in London, so this means that I made it out of Italy! #notonraceradio

 

[hfer07]

What tactic should Cance should use from now on?



NONE- He Just needs to learn how to sprint like Gilbert & he'll be unstoppable

 

[jens_attacks]

What tactic should Cance should use from now on?



NONE- He Just needs to learn how to sprint like Gilbert & he'll be unstoppable

he already does that.still that doesn't help after you bury yourself for dozens of kilometers

 

[Swede1]

he already does that.still that doesn't help after you bury yourself for dozens of kilometers

Yeah I mean if he had done equal pulls with Gerrans and had started the sprint in 2nd position he probably would have won.

 

[personal]

Everyone has woken up when he attacks. They will just sit & wait. He's become a one trick pony with no other options. He really needs to find another way to win that doesn't involve trying to ride off the front and soloing to a win.

He's beginning to look stupid.

What he needs is a team.
He is alone all the time when it counts.

 

[El Pistolero]

he already does that.still that doesn't help after you bury yourself for dozens of kilometers

Indeed, Cancellara can probably match Gilbert's speed on a flat finish or a slight uphill finish(the likes Cavendish can win), yet I can't recollect ANY sprint Cancellara won from a small group. If that doesn't mean you're tactically doing something wrong than I don't know what really...

 

[function]

Indeed, Cancellara can probably match Gilbert's speed on a flat finish or a slight uphill finish(the likes Cavendish can win), yet I can't recollect ANY sprint Cancellara won from a small group. If that doesn't mean you're tactically doing something wrong than I don't know what really...

Seeing Nibali and Gerrans going over the top of the Poggio, benefit of hindsight aside, what would you have done?

 

[thehog]

Seeing Nibali and Gerrans going over the top of the Poggio, benefit of hindsight aside, what would you have done?

I would have had a certain Chris Horner riding as the decoy.

When you've only got one guy then everyone knows what you're going to do and that you're the only option of victory.

Gerrans & Nibbs has the plan b Leopard did not.

That's the difference.

 

[Sciatic]

Seeing Nibali and Gerrans going over the top of the Poggio, benefit of hindsight aside, what would you have done?

Here's what he was thinking as Nibali attacked:
"I'm sure I can beat Sagan, Boonen, Goss, and the rest in the sprint if I just stay with the group, but I would really like to see the MSR thread on the CN Forum get to 1,500 posts so I think I'll jump on with Nibs and Gerrans so that I'll end up getting just barely beat at the line. That should stir up enough debate to hit the magic 1500 mark"

Sorry to cut and paste from the other thread, but seemed to fit.

 

[function]

Here's what he was thinking as Nibali attacked:
"I'm sure I can beat Sagan, Boonen, Goss, and the rest in the sprint if I just stay with the group, but I would really like to see the MSR thread on the CN Forum get to 1,500 posts so I think I'll jump on with Nibs and Gerrans so that I'll end up getting just barely beat at the line. That should stir up enough debate to hit the magic 1500 mark"

Sorry to cut and paste from the other thread, but seemed to fit.

Filler filler filler filler filler

 

[function]

I would have had a certain Chris Horner riding as the decoy.

When you've only got one guy then everyone knows what you're going to do and that you're the only option of victory.

Gerrans & Nibbs has the plan b Leopard did not.

That's the difference.

Horner is in no condition to be racing MSR (knee injury), so unfortunately he was not an option.

 

[karlboss]

Horner is in no condition to be racing MSR (knee injury), so unfortunately he was not an option.

20/20 hindsight is great, but Cancellara had one card played it and came second, dropping back to the Sagan group his odds would have been about the same as leading out Gerrans.

His real alternative was to launch the earlier attack on the Poggio, I don't think it'd have made any difference as the same 2 guys would have covered it.
Speaking of teams...maybe it would be different if he had a teammate to set up and attack, I'm sure in the post race analysis RNT are thinking could anyone of a host of climbers have done that job. But maybe coming 2nd in stage races is more important

 

[Netserk]

@the post above mine: Nope. He should have attacked later

 

[karlboss]

@the post above mine: Nope. He should have attacked later

In that case you are talking about an attack somewhere in the between 4km and 1km to go, with the top 10 on your wheel, perhaps more, good thing Cancellara is a nobody and wouldn't be marked in that scenario

 

[DominicDecoco]

Some great replies from Fabian btw in this interview. No excuses. He's just proud of his efforts which he undoubtly should be. Knew the situation he was in with Gerrans and Nibs and that he would have to give full gas on his own. I like Fabian.

Well in.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-pipped-at-milan-san-remo

 

[Panda Claws]

I think Cancellara rode great, he rode like a real champion.

He was willing to risk it all for a chance of victory unlike Gerrans, Valverde, etc...

Gilbert did this at LBL 2010
Boonen did this at RVV 2011, PR 2010

 

[Netserk]

In that case you are talking about an attack somewhere in the between 4km and 1km to go, with the top 10 on your wheel, perhaps more, good thing Cancellara is a nobody and wouldn't be marked in that scenario

Cause he can only get away when nobody watches

 

[cycladianpirate]

I think Cancellara rode great, he rode like a real champion.

He was willing to risk it all for a chance of victory unlike Gerrans, Valverde, etc...

Gilbert did this at LBL 2010
Boonen did this at RVV 2011, PR 2010

Utter nonsense.

Watch the video - Cancellara did not win. By all means say he "rode like a real champion" (Whatever that may mean), but accept the fact that he tried to win and failed to do so and was beaten by the better man on the day.

 

[The Hitch]

This thread

Praise for Cancellara Gilbert and Boonen. No mention of Cancellara winning

Watch the video - Cancellara did not win. .

The other thread

Critiscsm of posts. No mention of Cancellara winning or Gerrans not being a winner

we'll have to wait for The Hitch and the other CN Forumites to decide who actually won.

Obvious troll is obvious.

 

[Panda Claws]

This thread






The other thread







Obvious troll is obvious.

Lol. Partially true mainly because I remember Gilbert's victories the best.
But there is indeed praise for Gilbert in there.
The point I was trying to make was that Cancellara was willing to give it his all to win even if the situation was 'hopeless'.
Gerrans on the other hand (or valverde in LBL 2010, or Hushovd in PR 2010). Were not. They bluffed and hoped someone else would do it for them, possibly granting them the victory possible having them finishing 20th.

I just like suicidal/hopeless attacks in cycling.