What tactic does Cancellara use now?

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Mar 22, 2011
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karlboss said:
20/20 hindsight is great, but Cancellara had one card played it and came second, dropping back to the Sagan group his odds would have been about the same as leading out Gerrans.

He was going full gas when he was at the front, and the chase group behind was charging downhill, i doubt very much he could have fallen back and stayed at the front of the chase group. It's very hard to start all over again when you go all in like that.
 
Bennati did a great TT at Tirreno-Adriatico but has come up short sprinting. In retrospect, might a better tactic for RNT have been to send Bennati to the front and get him to set a hot pace and forget about his sprint, so that Cancellara could attack near the top and there was less chance of people joining him? Could never see Bennati winning a sprint with that many other sprinters there.
 
Dec 30, 2011
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Frosty said:
Bennati did a great TT at Tirreno-Adriatico but has come up short sprinting. In retrospect, might a better tactic for RNT have been to send Bennati to the front and get him to set a hot pace and forget about his sprint, so that Cancellara could attack near the top and there was less chance of people joining him? Could never see Bennati winning a sprint with that many other sprinters there.

I think they though they could do a Sagan and Nibali/ Gerrans & Goss just with Canc and Bennati just they should have realised it doesnt work with Cancellara and they probably over rated Bennati's sprint.
 
Jun 7, 2011
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Frosty said:
Bennati did a great TT at Tirreno-Adriatico but has come up short sprinting. In retrospect, might a better tactic for RNT have been to send Bennati to the front and get him to set a hot pace and forget about his sprint, so that Cancellara could attack near the top and there was less chance of people joining him? Could never see Bennati winning a sprint with that many other sprinters there.

That probably would have been a really good idea. Just used the same tactic that they used at Strade Bianche. Bennati is obviously in good shape so he would probably have been chased by the other teams.
 
Frosty said:
Bennati did a great TT at Tirreno-Adriatico but has come up short sprinting. In retrospect, might a better tactic for RNT have been to send Bennati to the front and get him to set a hot pace and forget about his sprint, so that Cancellara could attack near the top and there was less chance of people joining him? Could never see Bennati winning a sprint with that many other sprinters there.

Remember Greipel doing the same for Gilbert last year.
 
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thehog said:
I would have had a certain Chris Horner riding as the decoy.

When you've only got one guy then everyone knows what you're going to do and that you're the only option of victory.

Gerrans & Nibbs has the plan b Leopard did not.

That's the difference.


I literally can't take it anymore.

Horner? I love the guy but the Poggio is not his thing. Not steep enough or long enough. Horner doesn't throw down 8 - 900 watts for a few minutes in a big ring, seated, he just does not have that kind of raw horsepower.

When Canc is on your team you don't need many plan b's. And btw, Goss was hanging on by his fingernails. Nibs had Sagan, the other two had nobody.

Ok, carry on.
 
Good summary.


http://www.cyclesportmag.com/news-and-comment/milan-san-remo-analysis-clever-boy/

It worked. The victims of Cancellara’s strength used to be his rivals. In the last couple of Classics campaigns, since his incredible 2010 wins in Flanders and Roubaix, the biggest victim of Cancellara’s strength has been Cancellara himself. His physical superiority is such that nobody dares match him, much less help him. Far better to sit on his wheel, quench his fire, and use his strength against him. The only way to counter the tactics of shock and awe is to use guerrilla warfare.
 
Dec 2, 2009
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One trick pony? I'm not sure I understand. How do climbers win races? How about sprinters? rouleurs? Seems like all cyclists are one trick ponies- just depends on which trick were you blessed with.
 
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thehog said:
Good summary.


http://www.cyclesportmag.com/news-and-comment/milan-san-remo-analysis-clever-boy/

It worked. The victims of Cancellara’s strength used to be his rivals. In the last couple of Classics campaigns, since his incredible 2010 wins in Flanders and Roubaix, the biggest victim of Cancellara’s strength has been Cancellara himself. His physical superiority is such that nobody dares match him, much less help him. Far better to sit on his wheel, quench his fire, and use his strength against him. The only way to counter the tactics of shock and awe is to use guerrilla warfare.

Yeah. Lots of Panache winning races that way.

Ride near the front, never take a pull, punk them in the end. That's how SoCal crits are won.

MSR too now, I guess.
 
Mar 26, 2011
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Fabian looks stupid to armchair racer idiots who believe they could race more intelligently than him. I honestly think he should have tried to fake a mechanical or something just to get Gerrans off of him long enough for him to try shooting up the other side of the road...
 
I think he will go better in other races- RvV/ P-R ( if only because of the cobbles ). Last year at P-R he finally broke away. In RvV i felt sympathy for him/ because he had single handedly whittled down the others/ had to work to get Nuyens/ Chavanel to the finish/ attacked twice. At M-SR he probably he felt he again had to work, which resulted in him losing. He does also have other talents other than just going away on the flats.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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I wasn't able to watch the race but it seems to me the ideal situation for RANT would have been if Bennati was in the front group with Cancellara. He would have had to do all the work by himself (as it appears he did anyways), but instead of getting beaten to the line Bennati could have finished off the job. I am confident that he could have beaten Gerrans. It was pointless to have him in the second group because he would have lost to Sagan and Boasson Hagen anyways. But on the otherhand he probably couldn't have gone with those three when they attacked on the climb
 
Aug 2, 2010
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Christian said:
I wasn't able to watch the race but it seems to me the ideal situation for RANT would have been if Bennati was in the front group with Cancellara. He would have had to do all the work by himself (as it appears he did anyways), but instead of getting beaten to the line Bennati could have finished off the job. I am confident that he could have beaten Gerrans. It was pointless to have him in the second group because he would have lost to Sagan and Boasson Hagen anyways. But on the otherhand he probably couldn't have gone with those three when they attacked on the climb

he beat both of them at the WRR.
 
May 14, 2010
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thehog said:

From the article you linked:

Cycle Sport said:
Gerrans [. . . ] could have made the success of the escape more certain by doing a turn or two, but he gambled that Cancellara was doing enough, and calculated that he had one chance to win: wait. If he&#8217]

They got this wrong. Gerrans actually took a couple of pulls. Problem was, whenever he did the trio lost time to the chasers. Which also means that they got it wrong when they said Cancellara stayed on the front out of pride. In fact he stayed on the front because that was his only hope of winning the race.

I usually like cycle sport, but their read of this race is off, way off.
 
Benotti69 said:
what how many CCs that new Twek has :D

according to savoldelli cance was doing 62 kmph on the flat toward the finish.nibali was hanging on for dear life there

every reaction after san remo involved two words related one to each other:"cancellara" and "motorbike".:)
he's a beast no matter what
 
May 26, 2010
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jens_attacks said:
according to savoldelli cance was doing 62 kmph on the flat toward the finish.nibali was hanging on for dear life there

every reaction after san remo involved two words related one to each other:"cancellara" and "motorbike".:)
he's a beast no matter what

Needs to get it tuned to 70kmph to win this year :D

Maybe Beccca wont fork out for super unleaded and they are only using 95 instead of 98 :rolleyes:
 
Mar 4, 2012
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Frosty said:
False moustache and glasses for a cunning disguise? Can be got cheaply from many party stores.:cool:

Haha maybe he should swap his champion jersey with Rast. Cancellara attack! Everyone follow! Wait... this isn't Fab! [Real Cancellara has 1 km gap from another sneak attack]. Or: Rast attacks. No one follows because they'll catch him anyway. Then he goes solo for 50 km and wins cause it was actually Cancellara. Would be funny.
 
Dec 7, 2010
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Maxiton said:
From the article you linked:



They got this wrong. Gerrans actually took a couple of pulls. Problem was, whenever he did the trio lost time to the chasers. Which also means that they got it wrong when they said Cancellara stayed on the front out of pride. In fact he stayed on the front because that was his only hope of winning the race.

I usually like cycle sport, but their read of this race is off, way off.

I agree with your take regarding the cycle sport's read on this. If Cancellara done what he could once the race got to that point.
 
It seems everyone has forgotten how CANCELLARA won in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zN7OgUNDe8

He went with 1500m to go and killed the sprinters. This time around he tried to take on everyone with 7km to go - suicide. I think he should have stayed in the pack near the front then jumped on everyone after the decent of the Poggio finished. He would have won that way. No way Nibs and Gerrans would have held on minus Fabs.
 
thehog said:
It seems everyone has forgotten how CANCELLARA won in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zN7OgUNDe8

He went with 1500m to go and killed the sprinters. This time around he tried to take on everyone with 7km to go - suicide. I think he should have stayed in the pack near the front then jumped on everyone after the decent of the Poggio finished. He would have won that way. No way Nibs and Gerrans would have held on minus Fabs.
Nothing's guaranteed, and it wasn't a suicide, if he had managed to get a gap of few seconds, as he's done it in other races.
 

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