What's up with Arnie?

[TRDean]

Perhaps he is losing sleep....I really don't care. How people process things in their life and how they let if effect them is their choice. I have my mirror, and he has his.

I agree with this...Arnold has his own moral compass...

 

[Semper Fidelis]

At the risk of having my post deleted...When Arnold ran for governor, at one point someone dug up evidence of his wild party days when he was much younger. In the process of apologizing for it (which I think he should not have had to do), he made the point that he was always interested in the passion that a woman showed for him in bed, not her physical attractiveness. That was what turned him on. I think this affair speaks to that, and says something about him that I should think most women, regardless of how they feel about the affair, would like about him.

As to the affair itself…We all know that males evolved with a desire to impregnate multiple partners, and that while some struggle with (and/or enjoy) this more than others, for many it’s often a very difficult problem to overcome. Though modern Western society has proven very forgiving of other human frailties (gambling, drinking, drugs, etc.), most people, certainly women, seem to resist the idea that a man may have far less choice in the matter than is commonly assumed--that sex can be an addiction, a pathology, rather than simple evil. Something more in need of therapy than disdain.

I might have more sympathy with the mainstream view if women didn’t have their own evolutionary tendencies which get cut far, far more slack. Consider, for example, acquisition of material possessions. When Tiger Woods was revealed to have dozens of mistresses, he was a bad guy, pure and simple. The fact that his wife Elin couldn’t be satisfied with anything less than hundreds of millions of dollars—that she married the guy in the first place in large part because he was so rich—is passed over as normal, healthy behavior.

Yet which behavior is worse? Tiger hurt mainly his wife and his kids, and only them because in our particular culture (not all other cultures), having mistresses is considered cheating, and if your husband or father is cheating, by the rules of the game, you have to feel hurt. We have this fairy-tale notion that everyone has a unique life partner, and if he gives any love to anyone else, that fairy tale is destroyed.

(An aspect of Arnold’s affair that has gone totally unremarked upon by the media is the simple fact that if Maria and his kids had no clue that the affair was going on, who exactly was hurt by it? Their lives were not changed one iota by the affair until they learned of it. The pain only came from knowing, so if Arnold did anything hurtful, it was just finally being honest. The affair itself hurt no one except perhaps Arnold, by reinforcing his addiction—and perhaps, by the stress of leading a double life. And maybe the other woman, who might have felt guilty, but she would have to speak to that).

Elin, on the other hand, reinforced in hundreds of millions of people pure, naked greed, the desire for far more material wealth than is needed for a healthy existence. How many women looked at her and said, I want to marry a rich guy and be like her? Or even, I want to have a lot of money so I can have all the things she has? Nobody as far as I know ever calls her on this. Nobody ever suggests that if Tiger is a sleazeball because he can’t control his sexual desires, Elin is a sleazeball because she can’t control her desire for expensive homes, cars, jewelry, and on and on. This despite the fact that the world is in no danger of running out of sexual partners, whereas it is very much in danger of running out of the resources necessary to support Elin’s kind of lifestyle.

And yes, I know I have made some generalizations here. Some women are very promiscuous, and certainly many men are greedy for material possessions. But even if you don’t want to see these two desires as gender-biassed, the way most people look at them is certainly very different, and I would say, very badly in need of overhaul.

WoW.

I have formed an opinion based on your post above. It is my opinion that you must be single.

There are many categories of men that do not exactly fit your post above.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I agree with this...Arnold has his own moral compass...

From the looks of what Arnold has done his compass is not operating correctly. It is like that iphone compass application that gets out of wack sometimes….you need to do that figure eight motion to get its bearings straight. Maybe Arnold needs to go and run around in figure eights to make his compass regain its true north.

 

[Hugh Januss]

i totally agree. there is nothing good (as with the previous sexist themes disguised) coming out of this thread. politics in and of itself have enough controversial angles to leave this theme alone.

Good or not good, would you have even wandered in to comment if ChrisE wasn't involved?

 

[thirteen]

Good or not good, would you have even wandered in to comment if ChrisE wasn't involved?

whatever the reason, i am grateful python did.

i don't mind most of the muck that is slung on this forum, nor do i have a beef normally with ChrisE (he's amusing in his ability to wind people up).

what does get my dander up, however, is overtly sexist and misogynistic comments that are cropping up on this thread from more than one person.

i am sorry this thread was ever started.

 

[Hugh Januss]

whatever the reason, i am grateful python did.

i don't mind most of the muck that is slung on this forum, nor do i have a beef normally with ChrisE (he's amusing in his ability to wind people up).

what does get my dander up, however, is overtly sexist and misogynistic comments that are cropping up on this thread from more than one person.

i am sorry this thread was ever started.

Maybe in addition to the clinic we should have a mens only club, as this one seems to be dividing puplic opinion right along those lines. As for Python, anytime any subject where ChrisE rears his ugly head, or Glenn, Python turns up to try to play whack a mole.

 

[ChrisE]

Maybe in addition to the clinic we should have a mens only club, as this one seems to be dividing puplic opinion right along those lines. As for Python, anytime any subject where ChrisE rears his ugly head, or Glenn, Python turns up to try to play whack a mole.

Hey, I thought people's looks were off limits per Susan's earlier post.

Don't make me post a picture to prove you wrong. My mother doesn't think I am ugly, btw.

 

[thirteen]

Maybe in addition to the clinic we should have a mens only club, as this one seems to be dividing puplic opinion right along those lines. As for Python, anytime any subject where ChrisE rears his ugly head, or Glenn, Python turns up to try to play whack a mole.

that would be a big fat NO. unless you want to lose what few females you have.

*************

we let you have your Podium Girl threads, etc., and stay out so you can salivate amongst yourself... but can you not understand how offensive some of these comments have been? the lack of respect?

i like you guys. in fact, most of my friends are male and i tend to prefer the company of men (i was one of the lone females in a very male-dominated business). i can be one of the boys, no problem. i have a thick skin.

but a line has to be drawn... can you not understand?

Hey, I thought people's looks were off limits per Susan's earlier post.

Don't make me post a picture to prove you wrong. My mother doesn't think I am ugly, btw.

ChrisE, i bet your momma thinks you're the most handsome man on earth!

 

[mewmewmew13]

Good or not good, would you have even wandered in to comment if ChrisE wasn't involved?

C'mon Hugh..you know you always wander in when it's Glenn_ or patricknd or ChrisE show up. This is not an exclusive event.

and you know that ChrisE usually starts threads or comments to see what sort of ***t he can stir up...

Arnie doesn't know how to keep his compass where it belongs

 

[Hugh Januss]

Arnie doesn't know how to keep his compass where it belongs

His compass is broken, it points all over the place.

 

[python]

judging by the several posts here, it should be pretty clear by now that the sexist flaming thread (design as such from the very beginning) has failed. it turned into the usual blaming game of the messengers in the misguided attempt to ignore their message.

i feel it's time to shut the ridiculous thread.

 

[Hugh Januss]

ChrisE, i bet your momma thinks you're the most handsome man on earth!

Chris just acts this way because he found out his momma likes his brother best..........................................and he's an only child.

 

[Hugh Januss]

judging by the several posts here, it should be pretty clear by now that the sexist flaming thread (design as such from the very beginning) has failed. it turned into the usual blaming game of the messengers in the misguided attempt to ignore their message.

i feel it's time to shut the ridiculous thread.

http://youtu.be/C6cxNR9ML8k

 

[python]

judging by the several posts here, it should be pretty clear by now that the sexist flaming thread (design as such from the very beginning) has failed. it turned into the usual blaming game of the messengers in the misguided attempt to ignore their message.

i feel it's time to shut the ridiculous thread.

good idea.

 

[python]

Chris just acts this way because he found out his momma likes his brother best..........................................and he's an only child.

jeez, who the hell cares why your protege poster acts this way or that way. this thread is about arnie the politician, isn't it?

 

[Hugh Januss]

jeez, who the hell cares why your protege poster acts this way or that way. this thread is about arnie the politician, isn't it?

Apparently you do.

 

[python]

i really hope the evidence of the usefulness of the flaming thread in light of the persistent attempts to turn it to the forum personalities gets reviewed.


and quickly.

 

[Hugh Januss]

i really hope the evidence of the usefulness of the flaming thread in light of the persistent attempts to turn it to the forum personalities gets reviewed.


and quickly.

Dude? Do you just lack the self control to ignore something if it annoys you?

 

[python]

reported. this was the 7th post out of the seven that was strictly designed to attack a poster. from this point on i will let the powers to decide.

 

[Hugh Januss]

reported. this was the 7th post out of the seven that was strictly designed to attack a poster. from this point on i will let the powers to decide.

Yeah, "lighten up" and "just ignore something if you don't like it" are pretty harsh attacks.
I know the interwebz is a pretty serious place, but don't you ever just want to back it off a notch?

 

[python]

take your own advice. back off if you don't like it. or better yet, contribute on topic.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Last word.

 

[pedaling squares]

Do you just lack the self control to ignore something if it annoys you?

That is a very good point that could be copied into any number of threads. I hope the idea catches on.

 

[python]

That is a very good point that could be copied into any number of threads. I hope the idea catches on.

but what we are going to do about the thread where not only the topic but the the advise were ignored repeatedly ?

 

[Martin318is]

I have removed the off topic posts from this thread.