When is the smackdown on Chris Horner?

[TheGame]

The quote from Levi's affidavit is

"In 2008 Rider 15 told me that he was using EPO during his recovery from an injury in 2005 before the tour of Switzerland."


Its not enough to stand up in isolation at a hearing, but if USADA has more on rider 15 then maybe they could build a case.

There are two versions of each affidavit. There are the original statements made by the witnesses which are all encompassing, and cover many years and events. Then there are the actual affidavits submitted in relation to the Armstrong information and signed just prior to his conviction.

Levi said much more than is on his published affidavit, and that goes for all riders.

 

[Zweistein]

I think the unofficial standard is 6.2 w/kg for anything over 30 minutes. Correct me if I'm wrong

who clean has done that or come close clean?

 

[IndianCyclist]

So how long will he keep his Vuelta title
one month, one year, ten years, forever?

 

[Ferminal]

who clean has done that or come close clean?

You're forgetting Brailsford's Law.

 

[Fatclimber]

I guess Chavanel missed the Vuelta.

“I don’t think that this French team needs me,” Chavanel said. “You have to know when to leave the keys to the new generation. We have some very talented young riders and if you always have older riders there, they won’t have the opportunity to blossom.”

 

[Le breton]

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The VN article notes that Horner put out 425 watts for Cabarga, and calls that “reasonable”. Really? Even assuming the 65 kg weight is correct, and there’s good reason to be suspicious of that, that works out to about 6.55 watts/g. That is reasonable? Not to mention that if his weight were 62 kg, the value becomes 6.85 watts/kg.
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Checking against Froome 2011.
On this graph

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=21212&page=12

it shows Froome producing 480 watts for a 17 minutes effort, like Cabarga.

If he weighed 68 kg, that is within 1% of 7 watts/kg.

I don't know the circumstances of the 2011 climb by Froome, but it would seem that even with favorable wind, the faster time of Horner requires at least 7 watts/kg.

 

[Ferminal]

That would have Horner at 60-61kg.

 

[sittingbison]

That would have Horner at 60-61kg.

his wiki page has had him listed as 63.5kg since October 2009 (thanks El Chignon ) and as he is visibly thinner this race than he has been the past three years I wouldn't be surprise if he was in the 60-61kg range, especially as the race developed

 

[goggalor]

What US fans are excited about Horner? All the US fans I know are laughing at what seems to be an obvious doper winning in the era of "clean cycling". The same way they laughed at Froome.

The same American fans that backed Floyd Landis until he confessed and were Lance Armstrong apologists till Oprah, and even beyond that. There are a lot of them:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/is-chris-horner-a-redacted-name-in-usadas-reasoned-decision

Embarrassing.

 

[EnacheV]

The same American fans that backed Floyd Landis until he confessed and were Lance Armstrong apologists till Oprah, and even beyond that. There are a lot of them:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/is-chris-horner-a-redacted-name-in-usadas-reasoned-decision

Embarrassing.

Nah, those are normal people amazed by a "reporter" that writes and angry article about nothing because Horner hangs up on him.

"blogs, comments sections, forums" .... journalist hahaha

 

[Benotti69]

Nah, those are normal people amazed by a "reporter" that writes and angry article about nothing because Horner hangs up on him.

"blogs, comments sections, forums" .... journalist hahaha

So you think Horner is clean?

 

[EnacheV]

So you think Horner is clean?

no

but i think that article is ridiculous

there is a difference between journalism and commenting on a wordpress blog

 

[Benotti69]

no

but i think that article is ridiculous

there is a difference between journalism and commenting on a wordpress blog

What did you expect from CN? not journalism surely?

 

[sniper]

What did you expect from CN? not journalism surely?

it's a pity benson hasn't purchased, say, the leinders-sky story, or froome's badzilla story, in a similar fashion, i.e. with irony and skepsis.

apparently it's ok to distrust and mob a 41 year old associated with old cycling.
but let's remain polite to and confident in the new generation.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

it's a pity benson hasn't purchased, say, the leinders-sky story, or froome's badzilla story, in a similar fashion, i.e. with irony and skepsis.

apparently it's ok to distrust and mob a 41 year old associated with old cycling.
but let's remain polite to and confident in the new generation.

Singing the UCI theme-song.....

 

[Dazed and Confused]

it's a pity benson hasn't purchased, say, the leinders-sky story, or froome's badzilla story, in a similar fashion, i.e. with irony and skepsis.

apparently it's ok to distrust and mob a 41 year old associated with old cycling.
but let's remain polite to and confident in the new generation.

well, Horner is a dead end seen from a business opportunity perspective. Very unlike Team Sky etc.

 

[roundabout]

Horner is a hero to middle-aged everywhere. And he is likely to go on riding for quite some time.

Maybe he will even outlast Team Sky.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Horner is a hero to middle-aged everywhere. And he is likely to go on riding for quite some time.

Maybe he will even outlast Team Sky.

Really? Incredible.

 

[Parrulo]

Reading the CN comment section on this article makes me pity this sport and the ignorance of most of his fans.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/is-chris-horner-a-redacted-name-in-usadas-reasoned-decision

It feels like the Armstrong followers found and new messiah and were joined by every middle aged man on the planet. . . .

 

[BroDeal]

Reading the CN comment section on this article makes me pity this sport and the ignorance of most of his fans.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/is-chris-horner-a-redacted-name-in-usadas-reasoned-decision

It feels like the Armstrong followers found and new messiah and were joined by every middle aged man on the planet. . . .

Those are typical July fans. They are expected of comment sections of news sites. The difference is we have the Froome and Wiggans muppets posting here. Although they and their new cycling schtick have become rather quiet since Horner proved them to be idiots.

 

[Race Radio]

When is the smackdown?

When Lance sings to the Truth and Reconciliation Comittee

 

[Parrulo]

When is the smackdown?

When Lance sings to the Truth and Reconciliation Comittee

But would that bring enough smackett down on Horner's candy *** to take away his Vuelta win? I don't think so, it would only prove he used to dope but he would probably pull the same stunt everyone else did and claim to be clean since 06 or 07 or whatever the year was when they all went clean. . .

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Those are typical July fans.

It's September.

 

[EnacheV]

Calling people with 99% success rate idiots while you have 1% it's weird.

I rather think most are clean and have a 99% hit rate than be a total skeptic with under 1% success. And bitter in the process...

 

[melkemugg]

It's September.

For americans desperate for a new hero it can be july anytime they want it to be