Fearless Greg Lemond said:Finishing in the grupetto in Poland has let to a Vuelta podium spot before so I think you might be right.
I believe grupetto to podiums is the fashion nowadays and nothing like an Italian to follow fashion
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:Finishing in the grupetto in Poland has let to a Vuelta podium spot before so I think you might be right.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:Finishing in the grupetto in Poland has let to a Vuelta podium spot before so I think you might be right.
131313 said:Compare his form in Utah vs. Nibali in Poland. There's zero comparison--he was way more fit. .
Benotti69 said:I believe grupetto to podiums is the fashion nowadays and nothing like an Italian to follow fashion
The Hitch said:Why Poland for Nibali? Burgos is a far more appropriate refference point as it took place at exactly the same time as Utah, and is of similar lenght.
Nibali was 3rd in Burgos.
Zam_Olyas said:I resent that very much, plus Nibali is italian so he is honest and clean.
Benotti69 said:I believe grupetto to podiums is the fashion nowadays and nothing like an Italian to follow fashion
The Hitch said:Why Poland for Nibali? Burgos is a far more appropriate refference point as it took place at exactly the same time as Utah, and is of similar lenght.
Nibali was 3rd in Burgos.
Zam_Olyas said:Doping and consistent. Consistently doping.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Knew that was coming... just the cynics.
Nibali has no talent whatsoever, and thus risks his livelihood every stage race he enters. Just to earn a paycheck of 5.000 euro for finishing T-10 in Argentina.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:... and in the old days, finishing in the grupetto of GT´s (scroll down to 2 hrs 53 mins down on the winner) http://bikeraceinfo.com/giro/giro1990.html led to TdF wins http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_1990. So what´s your point?... Hypocrite.
The Hitch said:Here is a question to foxxy.
I remember you writing during the 09 world champs how sick you felt watching Usain Bolt win the 100m live at the Berlin stadium with your daughter I think.
There are several posts easily accessed through google where you ridicule his explanations, call him the Lance of the track, and say performance proves he is guilty.
Which begs the question from me, why don't you trust Usain Bolt but you do trust and love and rejoice at every improvement of Froome?
Usain Bolt was more of a talent as a youngster, which is one of the catergories you use to identify dopers. He broke through quicker, -22 vs 25.
Neither has failed a drugs test.
Neither has been caught up in a doping investigations.
Both say they are clean.
You clearly don't believe cycling has better testing because Horner is able to get through so clearly the testing sucks in both sports.
So, what is the difference? How can you be disgusted on the one side with the one and so supportive of the other?
I understand your obsessed a little bit, but I dont share it, sorry. Maybe you should look up the results for the Tour de Suisse 1990, just a tip. Or are you saying Nibali is the new LeMond? Wow, that is a daring statement Foxxxxy.FoxxyBrown1111 said:... and in the old days, finishing in the grupetto of GT´s (scroll down to 2 hrs 53 mins down on the winner) http://bikeraceinfo.com/giro/giro1990.html led to TdF wins http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_1990. So what´s your point?... Hypocrite.
The Hitch said:Here is a question to foxxy.
I remember you writing during the 09 world champs how sick you felt watching Usain Bolt win the 100m live at the Berlin stadium with your daughter I think.
There are several posts easily accessed through google where you ridicule his explanations, call him the Lance of the track, and say performance proves he is guilty.
Which begs the question from me, why don't you trust Usain Bolt but you do trust and love and rejoice at every improvement of Froome?
Usain Bolt was more of a talent as a youngster, which is one of the catergories you use to identify dopers. He broke through quicker, -22 vs 25.
Neither has failed a drugs test.
Neither has been caught up in a doping investigations.
Both say they are clean.
You clearly don't believe cycling has better testing because Horner is able to get through so clearly the testing sucks in both sports.
So, what is the difference? How can you be disgusted on the one side with the one and so supportive of the other?
red_flanders said:That's about as out to lunch a post as I've seen. At that point you're talking about a guy who already won the Tour twice and placed 2nd and 3rd before that.
Do you really not get what it means to be someone who rides in the grupetto? As in, can't make the finish times without the help of the grupetto?
Zam_Olyas said:Who says he has no talents? Just because he is doping doesn't mean he has no talents.
I would answer if you weren't condescending.FoxxyBrown1111 said:Here is my Question for you to better understand: Do you think Nibali does dope year long (& thus risking millions of euros) to get T-10 results consistently, just to win 5.000 euros here and there; in the Tour San Luis for example?
Or isn´t it more likely that he don´t dope year long?
And if he doesn´t dope year long, isn´t it much likely he has more talents than guys like 41 year old Horner or Cobo who come out of the dark, win, and hide again?