When is the smackdown on Chris Horner?

[BroDeal]

Chris Horner @hornerakg
I've decided to release my test results from the UCI biological passport, from 2008 until now. Results are posted at:
http://www.chrishornerracing.com

via twitter

He must be having a hard time getting a new contract.

Let's see Froome and Wiggins and Nibbles do this.

 

[Netserk]

Right click on the broken picture icon/link and choose "open picture in new tab" or something similiar if you are not using Chrome. This should open the .pdf with the data.

I don't see any broken pictures with Firefox, but I do with Explorer

 

[Netserk]

This is what I get with FireBug:

Screen dump

 

[therhodeo]

You can right click on the broken pictures, go to properties and grab the address of each individual picture and paste them into a seperate tab and it will open each pdf.

 

[roundabout]

Takes ages to load

 

[Galic Ho]

I resent that very much, plus Nibali is italian so he is honest and clean.

You never cease to make me laugh Zam. Keep it up, you make the Clinic worth returning to every once in a while.

Mi scuse Zam! I meant Nibali is a slave to fashion

Then there is this reply. Gold. Solid GOLD. Brilliant guys. Brilliant.

Mind you tonight whilst I was watching the mens chrono on the podium, when the other person I was watching with had switched their talk from how odd Wiggins looked (apparently he looks different...can't say I like his ink urggghhh) the talk went to how pretty the podium girls shoes were and then how lovely their little white dresses are.

Yeah, slave to fashion fits. Oh and the commentator wouldn't shut up about buying shoes and clothes as the final three headed past the Duomo. Yeah, fashion is the trend apparently. You guys weren't predicting this were you?

 

[therhodeo]

A few questions as I've never looked at one of these documents before.

1. Is it normal that there is nothing in the immature reticulocyte field?
2. What is the accuracy of the numbers?

 

[Netserk]

Okay here's a direct link to one of the pdf files:

http://www.chrishornerracing.com/storage/2013 Biological Passport Lab Results March 13.pdf

 

[Catwhoorg]

You can right click on the broken pictures, go to properties and grab the address of each individual picture and paste them into a seperate tab and it will open each pdf.

Yep.
Thats what I am doing right now. Going to be a sloow process


One thing from the early points.
His ret% is remarkably low.

 

[Baltazar]

I'm going to download them and share them somewhere. Gonna update in 10mins

 

[Scott SoCal]

He must be having a hard time getting a new contract.

Let's see Froome and Wiggins and Nibbles do this.

If his passport numbers look less than 'hilarious' maybe JV will sign him

Garmin really needs a dominant GC guy.

 

[Netserk]

Direct links to the 2013 pdfs (loads instantly):

March 13, 2013

June 26, 2013

August 22, 2013

August 29, 2013

September 3, 2013

September 7, 2013
September 14, 2013

 

[Von Mises]

Pre and during Vuelta


22.Aug
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 15.2 g/dL
hematocrit 45.4 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.5 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.5 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 100.0 fL
OFF-Score 96.70
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.54 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0386 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.85 %

29. AUg
haemoglobin 14.4 g/dL
hematocrit 42.7 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.6 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.7 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.5 fL
OFF-Score 106.53
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.29 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0167 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.39 %

03.Sep
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 13.5 g/dL
hematocrit 40.0 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.4 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.8 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.0 fL
OFF-Score 90.91
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.04 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0218 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.54 %

07.Sep
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 14.3 g/dL
hematocrit 42.9 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.0 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.3 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.1 fL
OFF-Score 98.50
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.33 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0238 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.55 %

14.Sep
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 14.6 g/dL
hematocrit 43.1 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.6 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.9 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.3 fL
OFF-Score 101.10
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.34 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0243 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.56 %


Well, his crit and haemoglobin started to rise during Vuelta.

 

[Galic Ho]

Doping and consistent. Consistently doping.

You know I was thinking the other day a nice little pun.

VincENZO Nibali product of FERRARI

What do you get?

ENZO FERRARI!!! Just screams winning doesn't it?

I really don't get the angle 131313 is pushing? Nibali rub you the wrong way? Did he spit in one of your mates soup sometime? When Foxxy is bringing up an argument in this season in favour of a Southern European, and it sticks...yeah you're not helping yourself.

Face it, Horner was on some uber strong turtle blood and beetroot juice. Stronger than everyone this year by a long shot. Well above his norm. Well above everyone minus the dynamic Sky duo and that is saying something for an LA honcho.

 

[Baltazar]

Link to all the bio pass data pdfs

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3CDmETYCom5dzBKTFh3S0h0X1U&usp=sharing

 

[D-Queued]

Del Moral's clinic is closed down in Valencia.

Do we know where the mail is being forwarded?

Dave.

 

[Netserk]

Link to all the bio pass data pdfs

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3CDmETYCom5dzBKTFh3S0h0X1U&usp=sharing

Neat!

 

[Galic Ho]

Pre and during Vuelta


22.Aug
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 15.2 g/dL
hematocrit 45.4 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.5 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.5 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 100.0 fL
OFF-Score 96.70
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.54 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0386 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.85 %

29. AUg
haemoglobin 14.4 g/dL
hematocrit 42.7 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.6 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.7 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.5 fL
OFF-Score 106.53
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.29 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0167 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.39 %

03.Sep
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 13.5 g/dL
hematocrit 40.0 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.4 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.8 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.0 fL
OFF-Score 90.91
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.04 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0218 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.54 %

07.Sep
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 14.3 g/dL
hematocrit 42.9 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.0 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.3 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.1 fL
OFF-Score 98.50
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.33 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0238 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.55 %

14.Sep
Biological Parameters
haemoglobin 14.6 g/dL
hematocrit 43.1 %
immature reticulocyte fraction %
mean corpuscular haemoglobin 33.6 pg
mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration 33.9 g/dL
mean corpuscular volume 99.3 fL
OFF-Score 101.10
red cell distribution width fL
red cells 4.34 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in absolute number) 0.0243 10^6/uL
reticulocytes (in percentage) 0.56 %


Well, his crit and haemoglobin started to rise during Vuelta.

At least his Off Score isn't as comical as some of Bottle's have been. What a joke. They really need to tow the limit in. Over 95 and you're suspect. Over 100 and it's as good as done that you're doping. What's his excuse? Diarrhea?

Looks like he got at least TWO blood bags and some micro transfusions. I wonder how this compares to his ABP from the 2011 ToC? Or was that the year they weren't testing? His retic % screams of manipulation. Way too close. Looks like they've managed to fine tune this crap nicely enough to get past some knuckle heads. I'd love to hear Ashenden's opinion.

Note it was said on this forum 2-3 years ago when discussing how blood doping works (older threads) that the parameters are WAY TOO LENIENT. Nobodies crit level starts that high, drops and then comes back. Pure manipulation. It's a joke. Oh and they weren't testing in Utah were they so a valid reference point for a month before is negligible. Horner's real crit level was probably way over 50% at start of the Vuelta. Oh well...he's got more balls than Froome does releasing this. Can't knock him for that.

 

[Catwhoorg]

ret% range from 0.39 to 1.15
offscore range from 74.8 114

Now to timeline some of the odd results against races etc.

 

[Scott SoCal]

At least his Off Score isn't as comical as some of Bottle's have been. What a joke. They really need to tow the limit in. Over 95 and you're suspect. Over 100 and it's as good as done that you're doping. What's his excuse? Diarrhea?

Looks like he got at least TWO blood bags and some micro transfusions. I wonder how this compares to his ABP from the 2011 ToC? Or was that the year they weren't testing? His retic % screams of manipulation. Way too close. Looks like they've managed to fine tune this crap nicely enough to get past some knuckle heads. I'd love to hear Ashenden's opinion.

Note it was said on this forum 2-3 years ago when discussing how blood doping works (older threads) that the parameters are WAY TOO LENIENT. Nobodies crit level starts that high, drops and then comes back. Pure manipulation. It's a joke. Oh and they weren't testing in Utah were they so a valid reference point for a month before is negligible. Horner's real crit level was probably way over 50% at start of the Vuelta. Oh well...he's got more balls than Froome does releasing this. Can't knock him for that.

The numbers are within parameters. No harm no foul.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

ret% range from 0.39 to 1.15
offscore range from 74.8 114

Now to timeline some of the odd results against races etc.

ALL well within the bandwith, no blood no foul.

Good work by Horner.

A few mini bags during the Vuelta after high altitude training. And of course not such good competition in Spain.

The blood is not the parameter for his performance. Perhaps he gave Salazar a call.

PS: you really have to be a moron to walk the off score line.

 

[Catwhoorg]

The numbers are within parameters. No harm no foul.

Its less crazy than Lance in 2009 (but not by much)

 

[sniper]

looking forward to vaughters' interpretation.
if the passport cleaned up cycling, how does chris fit in?

 

[Von Mises]

looking forward to vaughters' interpretation.
if the passport cleaned up cycling, how does chris fit in?

Do you have some kind of obsession? Why do you have to bring Vaughters into every topic?

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Do you have some kind of obsession? Why do you have to bring Vaughters into every topic?

Man crush.