webvan said:Odd...they must really have offered him peanuts...anyone knows how much he was making this year? Still, at least he would have had a good team to support him in the Vuelta, where is he going to go now...
Phonak? Saunier Duval?
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webvan said:Odd...they must really have offered him peanuts...anyone knows how much he was making this year? Still, at least he would have had a good team to support him in the Vuelta, where is he going to go now...
thehog said:Phonak? Saunier Duval?
Phonak 2.0 have already announced their roster for 2014.thehog said:Phonak? Saunier Duval?
Netserk said:Phonak 2.0 have already announced their roster for 2014.
Really unlucky for Horner that Vacansoleil is closing, otherwise they would have been all over him.thehog said:Phonak? Saunier Duval?
Samson777 said:Really unlucky for Horner that Vacansoleil is closing, otherwise they would have been all over him.
After the great succes Mosquera and Ricco brought them, Horner could have been the gold medal signing
will10 said:Horner would know better than sign for Vacansoleil: Mosquera, Ricco and Rujano barely lasted 6 months between them.
Samson777 said:Yeah perhaps he would. It will be interesting to find out who will pick him up. Perhaps he could be Vuelta leader at Cannodale, if Tinkov get's in. Seems Tinkovs only demand is, that his guys go all the ** way, to get results. So Horner would perhaps be a match.
thehog said:More to the point the journalist just printed the experts findings.
More concerning it's not just an expert but an actual bio panelist.
The software didn't pick up the profile but the panelists believes it's suspicious?
This will stop anyone ever releasing their bio passport ever.
Horner is doping but this is ridiculous.
Long live secrecy!
"Even on the urine tests themselves we noticed an alarming number of sports had begun asking testers to check samples for only one or two of the numerous performance-enhancing drugs actually able to be identified.
thehog said:I answered my own question.
4% of urine tests are tested for EPO.
Good odds of not getting caught on microdosing. Or even being tested.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:You do know the offscore is an important thingy in the BP of nowadays?
What that 132.9 of Hamilton says is athletes know how far they can go with their practises. Just like with the 50.999999999% haematocrit rule. Dope till you dont drop dead.
Von Mises said:If you do not know Hamilton´s full profile (and you dont) and if you do not know details how BP works exactly (and you dont), then you cant say that Hamilton would not have been picked up by BP. We just do not know that.
Netserk said:I haven't seen where FGL claims that
webvan said:Odd...they must really have offered him peanuts...anyone knows how much he was making this year? Still, at least he would have had a good team to support him in the Vuelta, where is he going to go now...
Von Mises said:If you do not know Hamilton´s full profile (and you dont) and if you do not know details how BP works exactly (and you dont), then you cant say that Hamilton would not have been picked up by BP. We just do not know that.
The plan among the teams in that Tour’s peloton was to let Hincapie lead all riders onto the Champs-Élysées in the waning miles of the race. As the cyclists sped down the grand boulevard in Paris, Hincapie would momentarily have center stage as he — the respected veteran who had started the race a record 17 times — pedaled the last miles of his final Tour.
Hincapie took off alone. But inexplicably, another rider took off after him. It was Chris Horner, an American on the RadioShack-Nissan team, who proceeded to have a conversation with Hincapie as millions watched on television.
Last week, neither rider would tell me what was said. Horner, who would go on to win the 2013 Vuelta a España at 41, becoming the oldest Grand Tour winner in history, called it “nothing that can be discussed in the newspaper.”
Only Hincapie and Horner know if Horner was following in Armstrong’s footsteps that day on the Champs-Élysées. But two riders who testified to Usada — who did not want their names used because they did not want to be seen as “ratting out” yet another rider — said that they gave Usada details about Horner’s doping but that the agency never followed up on the claims.
Matt DeCanio, a former pro rider who is now an outspoken antidoping advocate, said that Horner had told him years ago, “‘If everybody’s doing it, it ain’t cheating.’”
Le breton said:http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=features/2005/hamilton_appeal
There was an article about it in cyclingnews, with a graph of the OFF score (Hamilton's?)
I printed it, will look for it tomorrow.
BrentonOfTheNorth said:Why should Horner be considered a big name to sign? Disregarding his age (LOL) ... consider the careers of Angel Casero, Aitor Gonzalez, Santi Perez, Cobo, Nozal, etc...
The American's Vuelta victory might be one of the greatest performances in the history of the sport—if only it hadn't taken place under a cloud of doping suspicion. Horner maintains he's clean, and released six years worth of blood data to prove it. But his troubles just won't go away.
On Sept. 25, in what appeared to be a good-faith effort at transparency, Horner released his bio passport data to the public. But the move seemed to raise more flags than it lowered. We checked in with Michael Puchowicz M.D., a sports medicine physician for the Arizona State University Health Services and author of the Veloclinic blog, to see how Horner’s bio passport numbers hold up under anlaysis. Conclusion: Not very well. Here, Puchowicz explains why:
Chris Horner’s blood values during the Vuelta better fit with the patterns that anti-doping authorities look for as signs of cheating. The first element of Horner's bio passport that raises concern is the hemoglobin concentration. Hemoglobin is the oxygen-carrying protein inside red blood cells.