Dear Wiggo said:
Wait. Are you saying Horner winning ToC was more suspicious than Wiggo's 2009 TdF podium surrounded by dopers?
No. I just said Horners super suspicious ToC win came
before Sky did dominate anything. But in the clinic their is an assumption that Sky forced everybody else (including Horner & RSH) to dope. That´s absurd, and the guys know it. That´s why the clinic became a circus...
Dear Wiggo said:
Or are you having a cry because noone predicted the complete mockery Sky would make of the following 2 years of pro cycling?
No I don´t have a cry. As I said: I don´t take anything here serious anymore...
Anyway, try to twist my words to your fitting. Actually I said the opposite: Since no one predicted Skys domination, Sky can´t be used as a shield for others to have an excuse to dope like for example Horner at that ToC.
Dear Wiggo said:
Seriously? You're upset about 2011 ToC and Horner winning it because noone has said much since then? Ignoring Sky and their domination which has lead to domination of the forum discussion?
You still don´t get it...
Dear Wiggo said:
I am not following you at all. Could you perhaps explain what your concerns are more plainly?
See above, and my last few posts...
hiero2 said:
I don't come here looking for enlightenment or validation any more. Nor for serious discussion.
Same here. It used to be a good place. Now it´s my doper against yours who started the fire. It´s cruel. Zilch infos anymore.
Dear Wiggo said:
Generalisations are usually flawed, if not insulting.
That´s what happens here all the time since circa two years.
Hugh Januss said:
I, for one am against all doping. I am also against clowns who bang on and on about one obvious doper being an obvious doper, all the while defending other obvious dopers and accusing others of bias. Just sayin'.
Ask yourself: May I did it with intention? Just to balance the discussion? I think I expressed that often enough. Anyway, I gave up. Have a good day...
Wait; I´ll go on with Horner bashing for fun. For every gay joke in the Froome thread, I certainly have one for CH too. Just to hold up a mirror to those guys who lead unilateral "discussions". Mark that.
pastronef said:
some fans are not against doping. they are against doping of riders they don't like which prevent doping wins for their favourite riders
Better said than I did. Anyway, agree of course.