Which rider is underrated/overrated?

[Arredondo]

You're really saying that? Does your cycling memory only go one season back?

He still has to win a monument.

 

[Gloin22]

Yates brothers are overrated, not underrated. What have they done so far? Winning against Taaramäe? Okay, the 6th place of Adam at Dauphine was impressive for a first year pro, but other than that they had mediocre seasons (in relation to what was expected of them).

WTF was expected from neo pros Most neo pros don't even get any decent result as they work for the team..

Jesus Christ, I sometimes don't get this forum.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

He still has to win a monument.

Of course. But he's only 24!

btw, cool fact: he's not the only young talent born in 1990, almost all of them are! 1990 kids:
Thibaut Pinot, Fabio Aru, Nacer Bouhanni, Tom Dumoulin, Michal Kwiatkowski, Michael Matthews, Taylor Phinney, Nairo Quintana, Bardet, Moser.

Almost all of them were mentioned in this thread as overrated. (Except for Dumoulin, maybe. He's amazing). But I thing, for their age, every single one of them has an impressive palmares already, and are thus living up to their expectation.

 

[gustienordic]

This thread is hilarious. Are we really squabbling about who is overrated in this forum? This is never going to be a productive discussion as there are way too many fanboys (Yes I'm one myself).

Overrated: Froome, Thomas, Caleb Ewan, TJ, Kittel, (most of the "1st Tier sprinters: always talk of "Best Sprinter Ever")

Right amount of Hype: Aru, Kelderman, Sagan, Kwi, Nibali, Contador, Purito, Talansky, Pinot, Quintana, Uran

Almost all of us are aware of their strengths and weaknesses and can put in a pretty good prediction of where they will end up in a given race.

Underrated: Peraud, Colbrelli, Kristoff, Demare, (alot of the "2nd Tier sprinters)


Hmm, I wonder how much of this is due to my personal bias of riders (Pretty much all of it).

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

The Yates comments were hilarious indeed. I mean, they were outstanding this year, especially Adam. How can anyone judge them "overrated"? Being Neopros in their first year?

 

[scholar]

It's a fairly safe rule of thumb that anyone consistently mentioned as underrated on this thread is in fact overrated, while anyone consistently mentioned as overrated is in fact underrated.

 

[cineteq]

Sagan is good at everything, but not extrodinary at anything. Perfect green jerseyrider, but not nuch else

He's missed lots of opportunities to win, the last couple of years, based on tactical errors from him and his team. His talent remains and 2015 is going to be huge!

 

[sir fly]

He's missed lots of opportunities to win, the last couple of years, based on tactical errors from him and his team. His talent remains and 2015 is going to be huge!

Sagan has difficulties when he's the rider who has to make the race and whose moves are waited.
Getting used to the role and maturity should solve that.
But the average of 2011-2013 will be hard to reach.

 

[classicomano]

Overrated: Tom Boonan.

Underrated: Marcel Kittel, gets too much hate for being a pure sprinter. His explosions of power are incredible to watch.

 

[Gloin22]

How is hate even remotely relevant to being underrated?

People can hate him yet know he's best sprinter there is at the moment.

 

[cineteq]

Sagan has difficulties when he's the rider who has to make the race and whose moves are waited.
Getting used to the role and maturity should solve that.
But the average of 2011-2013 will be hard to reach.

Exactly. Maybe Alberto can give him a tip or two. The ave. could be hard to reach, but he'll get more quality wins.

 

[trevim]

Overrated: Tom Boonan.

Underrated: Marcel Kittel, gets too much hate for being a pure sprinter. His explosions of power are incredible to watch.

It's kinda hard to overrate an ex-WC who took 4 Roubaix and 3 Flanders amongst some other things. He gets hyped to win cobbled classics, that seems fair to me. No one talks about him winning the 5 monuments or anything like that....
If Boonen is overrated than so is every other rider.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

It's kinda hard to overrate an ex-WC who took 4 Roubaix and 3 Flanders amongst some other things. He gets hyped to win cobbled classics, that seems fair to me. No one talks about him winning the 5 monuments or anything like that....
If Boonen is overrated than so is every other rider.

Perhaps boonen is overrated or a bit hyped nowadays because people still think that he is one of the main favourites for the cobbles races and there are at least between 5 and 10 riders better than him for the cobbles classics.

 

[trevim]

I doubt there are 5 riders better than him in a cobbled monument: maybe Vanmarcke or Cancellara... Some others can beat him too but they're not clearly better.
Still, I agree that he gets hype but I find that normal considering his record.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Overrated: Tom Boonan.

lol did you watch PR this year?

You know in 2013 he was injured and this year he injured his thumb in E3? I mean, his lack of results the last 2 years is mainly due to injuries; there's really nothing indicating he's lost it somehow, on the contrary, considering his impressive ride in PR this year, I'm sure he'll be up there with Cance and Vanmarcke next year. By all accounts, he's considered one of the main contenders for cobbled classics together with Canc and Vanmarcke and that's rating him accurately.

 

[El Pistolero]

Perhaps boonen is overrated or a bit hyped nowadays because people still think that he is one of the main favourites for the cobbles races and there are at least between 5 and 10 riders better than him for the cobbles classics.

Boonen was one of the strongest men in Paris-Roubaix this year. He also had to deal with a personal tragedy.

 

[scholar]

Perhaps boonen is overrated or a bit hyped nowadays because people still think that he is one of the main favourites for the cobbles races and there are at least between 5 and 10 riders better than him for the cobbles classics.

Yeah, Boonen's definitely underrated.

 

[greenedge]

Just realised Simon Clarke is underrated.

 

[greenedge]

This thread is hilarious. Are we really squabbling about who is overrated in this forum? This is never going to be a productive discussion as there are way too many fanboys (Yes I'm one myself).

Overrated: Froome, Thomas, Caleb Ewan, TJ, Kittel, (most of the "1st Tier sprinters: always talk of "Best Sprinter Ever")

Underrated: Peraud, Colbrelli, Kristoff, Demare, (alot of the "2nd Tier sprinters)

Colbrelli has been the same rider for so long, able to win Italian races in a sprint or come second in others.
Ewan is still so young though and this year not one rider even attempted to come out of his wheel for the WC RR sprint, because they couldn't. He'll keep on improving, definetely.

 

[Gloin22]

Colbrelli has been the same rider for so long, able to win Italian races in a sprint or come second in others.
Ewan is still so young though and this year not one rider even attempted to come out of his wheel for the WC RR sprint, because they couldn't. He'll keep on improving, definetely.

That's bit of BS.

Before the 2014 season: 0 pro wins
After 2014 season: 5 pro wins

That no matter what is development in right direction.

 

[orangey]

Massively Overrated - Van Garderen. I keep hearing how he's still young, blah, blah. Time has passed by - he's 26 and only major win is the Tour of California. It's not like he started cycling late either. Wow.

 

[trevim]

Massively Overrated - Van Garderen. I keep hearing how he's still young, blah, blah. Time has passed by - he's 26 and only major win is the Tour of California. It's not like he started cycling late either. Wow.

I wonder where he would have ended up with 2012 Tour route running this year. I think he would have been close to Nibali. It doesn't help when every race is getting less and less TT biased.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Just realised Simon Clarke is underrated.

When GreenEdge started, no word of a lie, I repeatedly insisted that Gerrans was the kind of guy who would sit in the pack to come 7th in the uphill sprint at the end of the Ardennes races and the team had a much better thing going with Clarke.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Perhaps boonen is overrated or a bit hyped nowadays because people still think that he is one of the main favourites for the cobbles races and there are at least between 5 and 10 riders better than him for the cobbles classics.

Thats just nonsense, think about that again. 2013 was full of bad luck, 2014 was still stong if not the Boonen of two years ago who had the geatest cobbled season of all times....
Remember how he won Robaix that year? This years edition could have gone hos way as well. But you know whats also great about Boonen? He doesnt mind his team mates winning races he'd like to win.

On that remark: every one who pointed out that Terpstra was underrated absolutely right.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Massively Overrated - Van Garderen. I keep hearing how he's still young, blah, blah. Time has passed by - he's 26 and only major win is the Tour of California. It's not like he started cycling late either. Wow.

That's because he's a product of the USA Cycling system. Which has been unsuccessful since, well always

Lars Boom very underrated for me. Part of it was a career spent in support when he could deliver a podium. When he's let off the leash, he'll be there at the end, then disaster strikes.