Rujano is Venezuelan not Colombian but most importantly he is hugely overrated. I honestly think Gilbert is a superior climber.
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The Hitch said:Its not great but its probably a bit harsh to call him Zapatero directly.
The Hitch said:Someone else called him El Presidente and i liked it. Its because (well I assume it was directed at Scarponi), Zapatero is the presidente del gobierno in spain.
Its not great but its probably a bit harsh to call him Zapatero directly. To go around calling Basso "The Terrible", Ricco "The Cobra" but Scarponi after his OP nickname.
dlwssonic said:whats up with this rujano, so many other riders have proven more than him and he is so popular just because he is columbian
Sparta said:Rujano is Venezuelan not Colombian but most importantly he is hugely overrated. I honestly think Gilbert is a superior climber.
Moondance said:Silly of me, that does make sense, quite clever too.... I always thought the Spanish had a Prime Minister though, not a President, my mistake, I would've probably understood it otherwise..
Actually, now that I think about it, it is actually a little confusing of the Spaniards, since they do have a Monarch who acts as the Head of State, and then to also have a President is mucho confusing.
And as for the nickname thing, calling Scarponi 'Zapatero' is just desserts for having doped. Plenty of people, myself included, refer to Alejandro Valverde as Piti, or Valv-Piti, so we're not singling Scarponi out for unfair treatment.
jens_attacks said:il cobra. because at his best,he looked like the only person in the world who can upset alberto on the climbs.and when you think that this year's giro could have been the revenge....
Libertine Seguros said:How about winning a mountain stage of the Vuelta back in '06 and being the only person to be able to stay with Contador and Valverde in the '08 one until crashing out?
Libertine Seguros said:Pozzovivo should probably be in there. He won more or less every mountain stage on the Italian calendar last year. Urán, not yet, and Sastre, not any more. Certainly a year or two ago Sastre had to be included. If we include Cadel we have to include Menchov, who has probably shown more on long climbs than Cadel.
If we're talking best climbers ever then somebody really needs to mention José Manuel Fuente.
dlwssonic said:whats up with this rujano, so many other riders have proven more than him and he is so popular just because he is columbian
Sparta said:Rujano is Venezuelan not Colombian but most importantly he is hugely overrated. I honestly think Gilbert is a superior climber.
Christian said:He also got dropped in the Tour de Suisse (I think 2008) by such great climbers as Stijn Devolder for example
it was 2005, not 2007http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-hEtCGx1zopalmerq said:Rujano was really good in one giro, I forget which, I think it was 2007 he won a stage(maybe it was more than one I forgot this too :S) and ended up 3rd and king of the mountains, he was very impressive then. He is also amazingly tiny( I will check on wikipedia how small he is)
Since then he hasn't done so much I read he has a very bad attitude, he was the first non colombian to win the vuelta a colombia for ages though(that sounds a very interesting race too)... No idea where I would rate him, I haven't seen him do much since the giro.
wikipedia says he is 1.62 and 48kg
it was that long ago :S...........Eshnar said:it was 2005, not 2007http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-hEtCGx1zo
roundabout said:Virenque has won the Tour KoM and a stage in his last 3 Tours even beating the poultry in 04 in the process. I doubt anyone would try to use those results to promote the notion that he was one of the elite (as in very best) in those years.
Havetts said:Rodriguez is only 'good' on the very steep stuff, for the rest he hangs in and attacks indeed on the last kilometer just like was shown on the Tourmalet this year which is also steeper than the rest of the climb. Gesink was chasing for Menchov basically the whole climb and then the last km Rodriguez, Hesjedal and in the final meters Sanchez jumped away..
roundabout said:You were the one using KoMs and stage wins from breaks as some sort of sign of superiority.
1 Tour alone doesn't make Rasmussen a better pure high mountain talent than someone like Basso with multiple top 5 finishes in Grand Tours spread out over many years.
In 2005 Basso beat Rasmussen on 2 of the 3 mountain top finishes but i guess it was due to his overall riding skills as he isn't as good in the high mountains.