Bingo...Duclos or Madiot are not "legends". Eric Leman (RVV x3) is not a "legend" either IMO.Libertine Seguros said:Also, just two wins at that level means a lot of people are "legends" that you mightn't otherwise consider.
Maybe because you don't like sprinters or sprint stages.Valv.Piti said:Yeah, Nibz, Valv, Contador and Boonen are legends. Sagan will with 99% certainty also be one, as a matter of fact, he is probably pretty close already. Assuming Phil Gil won't win Flanders and such, I don't think he is a legend. Not consistent enough. One super spectacular season is not enough for me.
Cav is probably the most intriguing. Its not a rider I will remember, but many will. After all, he has a monument + WCRR and obviously all those stages. He will need to tie or beat Eddy, but still won't be a rider I'll tell my children about due to HOW he won.
The reason Sagan isn't a legend yet is due to his age. Legend has an elder and veteran connotation attached to it.Valv.Piti said:Yeah, Nibz, Valv, Contador and Boonen are legends. Sagan will with 99% certainty also be one, as a matter of fact, he is probably pretty close already. Assuming Phil Gil won't win Flanders and such, I don't think he is a legend. Not consistent enough. One super spectacular season is not enough for me.
Cav is probably the most intriguing. Its not a rider I will remember, but many will. After all, he has a monument + WCRR and obviously all those stages. He will need to tie or beat Eddy, but still won't be a rider I'll tell my children about due to HOW he won.
I don't riders who only can sprint (fortunately, we have many versatile fast-men right now) and no, I don't like pure sprint stages and think they should be kept at a minimum (3-4 in each GT). However, my favourite rider behind Quintana and Valv is, with quite some distance actually, Gaviria. Everything isn't that black/white.portugal11 said:Maybe because you don't like sprinters or sprint stages.Valv.Piti said:Yeah, Nibz, Valv, Contador and Boonen are legends. Sagan will with 99% certainty also be one, as a matter of fact, he is probably pretty close already. Assuming Phil Gil won't win Flanders and such, I don't think he is a legend. Not consistent enough. One super spectacular season is not enough for me.
Cav is probably the most intriguing. Its not a rider I will remember, but many will. After all, he has a monument + WCRR and obviously all those stages. He will need to tie or beat Eddy, but still won't be a rider I'll tell my children about due to HOW he won.
Same herejaylew said:You need to fix your poll. Delete a selection, save, then re-add it, save, and the poll will work.
Btw, of your list, I'd probably vote Chaves and GVA,
Froome's infamous and the majority will try to forget him. Quintana lacks the charisma do be a legend.Mr.White said:Holy Trinity of current peloton are Boonen, Contador and Valverde. Legendary status also have Nibali and Froome. Cav is quite close, with Gilbert and Sagan, although I think Phil Gil will never reach that status opposite to other two. Quintana is on a good path too, and that's about it for now...
what, no Froome?Valv.Piti said:Yeah, Nibz, Valv, Contador and Boonen are legends. Sagan will with 99% certainty also be one, as a matter of fact, he is probably pretty close already. Assuming Phil Gil won't win Flanders and such, I don't think he is a legend. Not consistent enough. One super spectacular season is not enough for me.
Cav is probably the most intriguing. Its not a rider I will remember, but many will. After all, he has a monument + WCRR and obviously all those stages. He will need to tie or beat Eddy, but still won't be a rider I'll tell my children about due to HOW he won.
It was a response to Tonton.rick james said:what, no Froome?Valv.Piti said:Yeah, Nibz, Valv, Contador and Boonen are legends. Sagan will with 99% certainty also be one, as a matter of fact, he is probably pretty close already. Assuming Phil Gil won't win Flanders and such, I don't think he is a legend. Not consistent enough. One super spectacular season is not enough for me.
Cav is probably the most intriguing. Its not a rider I will remember, but many will. After all, he has a monument + WCRR and obviously all those stages. He will need to tie or beat Eddy, but still won't be a rider I'll tell my children about due to HOW he won.
Well for me he is. I rate him above all top sprinters in the past 25 years, Cipo, Ale, Cav, etc.Mayomaniac said:It's not just about wins and records.
Let's be real, how many of you think that Erik Zabel shoul be considered a legend?
Definitely for me personally.Mayomaniac said:It's not just about wins and records.
Let's be real, how many of you think that Erik Zabel shoul be considered a legend?
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