Why Cadel Evans will not gain enough time on Andy Schleck in the TT.

[MKirilenko]

Worth mentioning that Frank lost 57s D) to the winner on the 9km(!) prologue last year, and Andy, God above, lost 1:09
This also puts in big doubt the statement that Andy is going to dominate Tour from now on. Not until they remove TT from the Race.

Whatever happens today, Andy is not a champion for me. "Still got a lot of to learn"

 

[greenedge]

Andy was allowed by Cadel to go as he did not want to blow up following 1-2s on stage 18. Stage 19 Andy spent so much time out front, was grimacing, used his teammates to reel in Cadels' attack on this stage and will have the worming thought in his head that he was not strong enough to help poor brother Frank.

Admittedly he closed down Cadels' attack and did a kickass 60 km break. However i would say based on energy they would be the same. Shleck has not at any stage gone head to head against Cadel and dropped him. And the course will still suit a good time triallist otherwise we would say for sure Tony would beat Cancellara.

He finished what in the ToC time trial? And that Time trial had a descent in the middle as well. I'm just surprised on the last few stages he has clung on in the descents. Go Cadel. Shleck might still gain the 10 TDF and he will win it in future.

 

[Stingray34]

Forget about Frank - he will finish third in the Tour.

Normally, 57 sec is too much time to make up in the final time trial. However, in the last two stages we've seen Cadel 'time trial' up two sides of the Galibier and taken 2mins and 1:15min respectively out of Andy.

Granted, Andy had a long escape in the valley up the Lauteret and that explains his lost time on Thursday. But last night, he was working with Contador early in the stage and together they lost time to Evans in a massive gear.

At this rate, Evans would take 2 mins out of Andy in a mountain TT!

It's going to be very interesting tonite. We may be looking at the smallest winning margin in history in one of the finest-ever editions of the race.

A concern could be what the Schlecks' attempt to do vis a vis pacing: I think we may see Frank deliberately lose time and provide a carrot for his brother to chase. WOnder what Prudhomme's going to do about that? Might he split them with Cadel in the middle?

 

[Cerberus]

Forget about Frank - he will finish third in the Tour.

Normally, 57 sec is too much time to make up in the final time trial. However, in the last two stages we've seen Cadel 'time trial' up two sides of the Galibier and taken 2mins and 1:15min respectively out of Andy.

Granted, Andy had a long escape in the valley up the Lauteret and that explains his lost time on Thursday. But last night, he was working with Contador early in the stage and together they lost time to Evans in a massive gear.

At this rate, Evans would take 2 mins out of Andy in a mountain TT!

It's going to be very interesting tonite. We may be looking at the smallest winning margin in history in one of the finest-ever editions of the race.

A concern could be what the Schlecks' attempt to do vis a vis pacing: I think we may see Frank deliberately lose time and provide a carrot for his brother to chase. WOnder what Prudhomme's going to do about that? Might he split them with Cadel in the middle?

Yeah, that wouldn't be obvious at all, Frank loosing 3 minutes to his brother (and his podium spot) in 10 k and then magically speeding up to hold a steady pace 5 meters in front of him. Even if they're not pacing per see, but just giving him something to chase it would be worse than useless because Frank is the inferior TTlist of the two. If it happened they'd be told to keep a greater distance between them, but it won't because it would be almost as obvious as it would be stupid. I realize that lots of people don't like the Schlecks or at least Andy, but please think before you post.

 

[Yeahright]

I like Cadels plan:

Start fast, finish fast, and if he's fast enough he will win.

I think he will be fast enough tomorrow.

 

[Stingray34]

...I realize that lots of people don't like the Schlecks or at least Andy, but please think before you post.

But don't you do that for me already?

 

[therealdjamolidineabdoujaparov]

absolutely

If 2 people are giving 100% how does any information help go faster.

There is no excuse for both, Andy knowing Cadel is eating his time may stress him and do th opposite of help.

Cadel has been the equal of Andy in Andys house this tour. Andy is in Cadels House now and its going to be wet.

Going last will let Andy know just how many seconds per kilometer he is losing. Doesn't give you more watts.

 

[SilentAssassin]

Remember Michael Rasmussen's Excellent Time Trial in the yellow jersey? The yellow jersey gives you wings:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...chael-Rasmussen-digs-deep-to-retain-lead.html

 

[AussieGoddess]

A concern could be what the Schlecks' attempt to do vis a vis pacing: I think we may see Frank deliberately lose time and provide a carrot for his brother to chase. WOnder what Prudhomme's going to do about that? Might he split them with Cadel in the middle?

to be honest I dont know that they will .... because it will cost Frank his spot on the podium - and they want BOTH of them on the podium

I actually hope they do though - as I still think Cadel will win it - and that will put Contador on the podium too.

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

A concern could be what the Schlecks' attempt to do vis a vis pacing: I think we may see Frank deliberately lose time and provide a carrot for his brother to chase. WOnder what Prudhomme's going to do about that? Might he split them with Cadel in the middle?

Andy should choose a faster carrot. That plan is a sure loser.

 

[Ferminal]

Did you watch the TT last year? The wind changed so most of the people you mention "beating" Andy in the TT last year did so because of the wind or at least beat him by a larger margin because of the wind.

Yes, exactly, the wind was a huge factor thus the results aren't very reliable. I have not heard the weather report so I'm not sure what the wind is like today, but I doubt it will be as large an influence as last year.

 

[mickkk]

It may give you wings, perhaps a minute, but Evans will beat Shrek by 2 minutes.

 

[Yeahright]

Frank! Frank! help me Frank!
I wonder if they would notice if Fabian disguised himself as me?? Lycra is stretchy and he could wear a visor...yeah thats what I will do!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Cadel wins (I hope)

Shrecks father (ex pro racer) says, & he should know his boy by now. But maybe he is stu*****.

Unfortunately, his father Johnny described the situation a little differently. "I don't think it's possible," he told reporters on the finish line. "Cadel Evans is one of the best time triallists in the world, and he already knows the time trial well from the Dauphine. But I still have hope, and I know that the last week of the Tour also means different parameters. Both Fränk and Andy are strong in the last week, and perhaps Cadel will have a bad day."

Evans finished sixth, at 1:20 adrift of then-stage winner Tony Martin (HTC-Highroad) on the exact same course of the race against the clock in the Dauphine one month ago.

Schleck, whose last race before the Tour was the Tour de Suisse, conceded that he had never ridden the Grenoble course and only knew it from television footage. "But I know a little bit what it's like from talking to the guys who did it in the Dauphine," he said. "Everybody tells me it's a course that suits me well, so I believe them... and I hope to show a great performance tomorrow."

DERMIE!!! You're back!!

 

[Cerberus]

Yes, exactly, the wind was a huge factor thus the results aren't very reliable. I have not heard the weather report so I'm not sure what the wind is like today, but I doubt it will be as large an influence as last year.

Even if the wheather changes dramatically it shouldn't make a large difference.. Sure enough Tony Martin and Cancellara might beat the GC contenders by a ludicrious margin, but AS and Evans will be seperated by six minutes, there can't be to much wheather difference between them. The changing wheather didn't affect the GC last year either.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

... Johnny described the situation a little differently. "I don't think it's possible," he told reporters on the finish line. "Cadel Evans is one of the best time triallists in the world...

In 2007, sure. 2008, sure. Now? I'm not so sure. But I do agree with everything else Johnny said. Andy has to ride like the wind, and hope Cadel has an off day.

Nice avatar, Stingray.

 

[Dermie]

DERMIE!!! You're back!!

Never bin away

 

[Bavarianrider]

It would be dreadful if Andy wins this one. His dead is the best friend of the chief parcours creator of the Tour. Just learned that a few days ago. No we know why there are so few TT kilometres in topday's tours!

 

[The Gnome]

I think it is pretty well understood that we are nearing the dawn of the Great Bauke Mollema era.

lol! made me spit coffee this morning...

 

[Franklin]

Damnit, Andyllara already finished:

3.Fabian Cancellara (Leopard Trek) 57:15

 

[TimChristy]

With the end of the tour drawing near and with the mountain stages weeding out the so called pretenders, and the previous champion Alberto Contador, a new era begins. This is an era where Andy Schleck will dominate the tour.

Most people believe Cadel Evans can make up the time, but the reality is that Cadel is racing for second. Here is the secret as to why:

First reason is because as Andy Schleck put it, the Maillot Jaune is said to "Give you wings." Vockler demonstrated this throughout the mountain stages, raising his ability to another level. It is certainly reasonable to believe that Andy could do the same.

Second reason is team radios. Andy will always know the time gap between him and Evans as he will be the last one to go in the time trial. Being last has a huge advantage.

Lastly, the profile of the time trial stage actually favors Andy since it is hilly. And with the enormous effort that Cadel has put in the mountain stages, you wonder if he has enough left in the tank to pull out a solid performance.

I admire Cadel Evans, he has had a great tour. But there are just too many variables going against him. Fact is, Cadel knows he needed yellow to have a real shot at winning the tour. But the reality is he'll be racing for second place in the time trial.

Bro you may want to rethink your thoughts. Dead wrong

 

[oncehadhair]

Somebody put the wings on evans jersey by mistake.

 

[bridgeman]

Somebody put the wings on evans jersey by mistake.

The wings were optional, with no guarantees.

 

[taiwan]

With the end of the tour drawing near and with the mountain stages weeding out the so called pretenders, and the previous champion Alberto Contador, a new era begins. This is an era where Andy Schleck will dominate the tour.

Most people believe Cadel Evans can make up the time, but the reality is that Cadel is racing for second. Here is the secret as to why:

First reason is because as Andy Schleck put it, the Maillot Jaune is said to "Give you wings." Vockler demonstrated this throughout the mountain stages, raising his ability to another level. It is certainly reasonable to believe that Andy could do the same.

Second reason is team radios. Andy will always know the time gap between him and Evans as he will be the last one to go in the time trial. Being last has a huge advantage.

Lastly, the profile of the time trial stage actually favors Andy since it is hilly. And with the enormous effort that Cadel has put in the mountain stages, you wonder if he has enough left in the tank to pull out a solid performance.

I admire Cadel Evans, he has had a great tour. But there are just too many variables going against him. Fact is, Cadel knows he needed yellow to have a real shot at winning the tour. But the reality is he'll be racing for second place in the time trial.

 

[sartoris]

Say what ??