Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[del1962]

Re:

JTL should try to blackmail Wiggins for a ride on Team Wiggo or whatever it's called

Do you really believe he has any info to blackmail Wiggo with

 

[thehog]

From cadence to cunning, the attributes that make Sir Brad
one of the greatest of all time are on full display here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O2Y5FHMO9g

you forgot about the doping.

hopefully those clowns will ask for their money back for their Wiggo bedsheeds and autobiographies once he gets busted.

Wiggins may be a douche but he's not going to pull any of the stunts Armstrong pulled. He ain't that stupid.

Unless he gets drunk...

 

[oldcrank]

The Style Council coming soon to a radio near you!
https://instagram.com/p/9oPB4OpHqv/
#menwithclass

 

[Benotti69]

The Style Council coming soon to a radio near you!
https://instagram.com/p/9oPB4OpHqv/
#menwithclass

#menwithdrugs

 

[Ironhead Slim]

The Style Council coming soon to a radio near you!
https://instagram.com/p/9oPB4OpHqv/
#menwithclass

#menwithhobbit

 

[oldcrank]

The craic was ninety!
https://twitter.com/SeanKellyCyclin/status/661652029908103169

 

[Benotti69]

The craic was ninety!
https://twitter.com/SeanKellyCyclin/status/661652029908103169

A few spuds is code for doping, i take it!

 

[the sceptic]

The Style Council coming soon to a radio near you!
https://instagram.com/p/9oPB4OpHqv/
#menwithclass

#douchebags

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Things must be slow around here if this hasn't been bumped yet.

Wiggins bulks up for the Olympics but keen to stay a working-class hero

Adding 16kg for for Rio

Wiggins lost significant weight to become competitive at the Tour de France. Now he is bulking up to add the extra strength and speed that is needed for modern day team pursuiting.

"In the gym, we are trying to build muscle. Bulk. Transforming us into sprinter hybrids," he confirmed. "As important as nutrition was in the Tour de France in losing weight, this is about trying to gain weight, for me anyway. I crashed out at 69kg [10st 12lb] in 2011 and I am 79kg now. And after the European Championships I go into a two-month gym block at the velodrome, which has all been structured with nutrition, in order for me to gain 2 or 3kg of muscle. By the time I get to the Olympic Games, I am hoping to be 84 or 85kg, which is what I was in Beijing, before I went the other way for the Tour de France. So I will be 16kg heavier than when I won the Tour."

<Gulp>

So how much of that extra weight is likely to be just fat?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

1kg of fat and 10kg of bullsht PR guff.

 

[Benotti69]

I guess the testing lab in Rio will be opening an office for brown envelopes pretty soon.........

 

[sniper]

Re:

I guess the testing lab in Rio will be opening an office for brown envelopes pretty soon.........

The appropriate 'infrastructure' is still in place from the WC soccer:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/doping-and-the-world-cup_-every-footballer-in-brazil-will-be-tested-/38730424

 

[Winterfold]

From cadence to cunning, the attributes that make Sir Brad
one of the greatest of all time are on full display here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O2Y5FHMO9g

and people say he cant handle a bike and lacks bottle

 

[Catwhoorg]

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

 

[sniper]

Re:

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

wiggins' story makes me wonder about possible side effects of AICAR.
seems he got fed up with it for some reason, and decided to go back to the track where an old school diet suffices to get you wins.

 

[The Carrot]

Re: Re:

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

wiggins' story makes me wonder about possible side effects of AICAR.
seems he got fed up with it for some reason, and decided to go back to the track where an old school diet suffices to get you wins.

Welcome back Sniper:

I recon Wiggins knows that there's more money in him being the most winningest (?) Olympic Brit ever than gaining another GT win. When he retires as the bestist Brit Olympian ever he will be on TV 24/7, it'll be unbearable for many on here. He'll be in that Team Pursuit squad whatever. Forget the guff Sutton is spouting about Bradley having to earn his place, it's already been decided, it's more marketable to have him winning his upteenth medal.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

wiggins' story makes me wonder about possible side effects of AICAR.
seems he got fed up with it for some reason, and decided to go back to the track where an old school diet suffices to get you wins.

Welcome back Sniper:

I recon Wiggins knows that there's more money in him being the most winningest (?) Olympic Brit ever than gaining another GT win. When he retires as the bestist Brit Olympian ever he will be on TV 24/7, it'll be unbearable for many on here. He'll be in that Team Pursuit squad whatever. Forget the guff Sutton is spouting about Bradley having to earn his place, it's already been decided, it's more marketable to have him winning his upteenth medal.

cheers Carrot,
excellent point you make here (including the unbearability of having to endure his face on tv)

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

wiggins' story makes me wonder about possible side effects of AICAR.
seems he got fed up with it for some reason, and decided to go back to the track where an old school diet suffices to get you wins.

Welcome back Sniper:

I recon Wiggins knows that there's more money in him being the most winningest (?) Olympic Brit ever than gaining another GT win. When he retires as the bestist Brit Olympian ever he will be on TV 24/7, it'll be unbearable for many on here. He'll be in that Team Pursuit squad whatever. Forget the guff Sutton is spouting about Bradley having to earn his place, it's already been decided, it's more marketable to have him winning his upteenth medal.

Wiggins could go to 2020. who will compete with GB for a TP medal? not the Aussies, no one will compete with them. Clancy will keep on going around, G might come back. They could sweep for the next two decades, the new drugs should get Brad thru atleast the nest two.

 

[The Carrot]

Re: Re:

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

wiggins' story makes me wonder about possible side effects of AICAR.
seems he got fed up with it for some reason, and decided to go back to the track where an old school diet suffices to get you wins.

Welcome back Sniper:

I recon Wiggins knows that there's more money in him being the most winningest (?) Olympic Brit ever than gaining another GT win. When he retires as the bestist Brit Olympian ever he will be on TV 24/7, it'll be unbearable for many on here. He'll be in that Team Pursuit squad whatever. Forget the guff Sutton is spouting about Bradley having to earn his place, it's already been decided, it's more marketable to have him winning his upteenth medal.

Wiggins could go to 2020. who will compete with GB for a TP medal? not the Aussies, no one will compete with them. Clancy will keep on going around, G might come back. They could sweep for the next two decades, the new drugs should get Brad thru atleast the nest two.

You could well be right, the 3 individuals you mention are very much part of Sutton's 'inner circle'.

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

He really is happier on the track.

Good luck to him in Rio.

wiggins' story makes me wonder about possible side effects of AICAR.
seems he got fed up with it for some reason, and decided to go back to the track where an old school diet suffices to get you wins.

Welcome back Sniper:

I recon Wiggins knows that there's more money in him being the most winningest (?) Olympic Brit ever than gaining another GT win. When he retires as the bestist Brit Olympian ever he will be on TV 24/7, it'll be unbearable for many on here. He'll be in that Team Pursuit squad whatever. Forget the guff Sutton is spouting about Bradley having to earn his place, it's already been decided, it's more marketable to have him winning his upteenth medal.

Wiggins could go to 2020. who will compete with GB for a TP medal? not the Aussies, no one will compete with them. Clancy will keep on going around, G might come back. They could sweep for the next two decades, the new drugs should get Brad thru atleast the nest two.

You could well be right, the 3 individuals you mention are very much part of Sutton's 'inner circle'.

If Bobridge can ride a 4.08 in Adelaide in summer, or was it Sydney, both in January on really too fast tracks, Clancy and G and Wiggo could if they had to go all out and prepare like Jacky Bobby, do something equivalent.

But those three can really hold their own in the 3'50" speed for one lap with their nose in the wind on the front. That is track sprint type speed. And I think Ed is the best starter in the World, I remember the Australians loving Graeme Brown doing this role a decade ago, it really is a specialist position, but Clancy can finish it off.

This is why I thought if G came back for a gold, that they could slip Cav into the 4 and give him a track gold, cos he really harbors the ambition for an olympic gold too. I know his CdA is really low, so he would hurt the guy immediately in his supposed "slipstream". But come on, how much bigger is Peter Kennaugh? About 4 kgs of track weight, mebbe. I know weight does not have the perfect correlation to CdA. Cav is short. indeed, he is short, LRP short. But he also wins those 2 to 3 km prologues on the road that Brett Lancaster wins. And he has track souplesse, he has won the madison worlds with Brad. And he has won Ghent and other Sixes.

 

[The Carrot]

While sometimes I'm not sure quite how far your tongue is in your cheek, this is not a completely implausible scenario. That said, there is a lot of money invested in the academy programme and it needs to be seen to be working, so some of the 'old guard' will be culled occasionally regardless of ability seeing as GB are gonna win anyway. Few nations give a 'rat's arse' about track cycling and the ones that do often can't afford to compete.

 

[blackcat]

Re:

While sometimes I'm not sure quite how far your tongue is in your cheek, this is not a completely implausible scenario. That said, there is a lot of money invested in the academy programme and it needs to be seen to be working, so some of the 'old guard' will be culled occasionally regardless of ability seeing as GB are gonna win anyway. Few nations give a 'rat's arse' about track cycling and the ones that do often can't afford to compete.

actually, wrt Cav, I would like him to get a gold at the Olympics.

He could sling G 1mill GBP, and give Clancy and Wiggo the same, as bonuses, if they were to win the Olympics...

now... they would have to work out who was the strongest to sit behind Cav, well G is the smallest, but the "strongest" is not necessarily the strongest in this position compared to a 4k IP or a 4k TP where you do the strongest turns/times/watts when nose in the wind.

And Cav could put on muscle to about 75kg to mark his CdA larger, without affecting his own role, because this will be a happy medium, he still has to poke his own nose in the wind and do his own laps at the TP speeds and for 4km.

So I would like to see Cav ride with Clancy and Wiggo and G. But G knows the big money is in July.

Kennaugh cant be that strong in the TP, and he is a short arse and light. Tennant average. Burke no world beater.

And Clancy's omnium is a russian roulette. it is not a certain gold. because it has those scoring races like madison and points race, where, the 10 other competitors can mark you out of the race, so they can influence the race overall by penalising you in the pointsrace and madison (sorry, no madison... forget that)... but if the competitors in the omnium can mark you out of the points race, this is an inbuilt handicap for the ENTIRE omnium, and the scoring structure. So Clancy is penalised with this inbuilt handicap as the favourite and strongest omnium ride.

"inbuilt handicap" was always an organic part of the points race and madison. But the way I conceive of the Omnium, it's founding theory was not to have an arbitrary handicap to penalise the strongest rider.

so that is my platform for Cav to run, on his ticket for a spot in the TP.

Wiggo, Clancy, G, Cav,

Kennaugh Burke Tennant can get ferked

 

[blackcat]

He ain't getting busted. The idea that these big fish eventually get caught is wrong headed. I hear this refrain from the LeMond people: he would've been caught by now.

Fact is, almost nobody gets caught. The only reason Armstrong went down was because he was a blackhearted pig. It's unimaginable now, but think how different the doping landscape would be if Armstrong had just let Landis ride the Tour a California.

Think of all the riders who would've been regarded by the general cycling public as clean. Hincapie? JV? Leipheimer... the list goes on.

Armstrong gift wrapped his ass and handed to Landis who handed to the DoJ who handed it to USADA.

It's a joke. No one gets caught unless they're stupid.

Wiggins may be a douche but he's not going to pull any of the stunts Armstrong pulled. He ain't that stupid.

Helmut Floyd is still vehement that he did not use testo during the Tour.

so, what is your theory?

I actually believe this version by Floyd, I dont believe Floyd, but I think this version is truth, so what was it?

Was there enough testo metabolites in the blood bags. Or, my theory... my theory is that his dodgey swannie, the Belgian Freddy Viaene was using a testo solution with his massage cream/oil, he was mixing the massage oils with some testo.

Race Radio?

http://www.dopeology.org/people/Freddy_Viaene/


oh, I forgot, I cant speculate on this board, we must believe Brailsford and Lance and everything they say

 

[Jacques de Molay]

so, what is your theory?

blackcat, may I invite you to The Sidebar Thread?
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&p=1849410#p1849410

 

[blackcat]

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