MatParker117 said:sniper said:What's your point?MatParker117 said:Benotti69 said:Ryo Hazuki said:lol obviously a bloodtest was taken on wiggins before that picture. keep going this tinfoil hat cup!
You forgotten the lies told by Wiggins and Brailsford/Sky.
One doesn't need a tinfoil hat not to be stupid, but others could do with not burying their head in the sand.
Yeah, with two embedded film crews and surrounded by the world's media.
That trying to cheat with camera crews recording thousands of hours of documentary footage is maybe not a smart move?
Bigger Than Life is an American DeLuxe Color CinemaScope film made in 1956 directed by Nicholas Ray and starring James Mason, who also co-wrote and produced the film, about a school teacher and family man whose life spins out of control upon becoming addicted to cortisone. The film co-stars Barbara Rush as his wife and Walter Matthau as his closest friend, a fellow teacher. Though it was a box-office flop upon its initial release,[2] many modern critics hail it as a masterpiece and brilliant indictment of contemporary attitudes towards mental illness and addiction.[3] In 1963, Jean-Luc Godard named it one of the ten best American sound films ever made.[4]
Bigger Than Life was based on a 1955 article by medical writer Berton Roueché in The New Yorker, titled "Ten Feet Tall".
Schoolteacher and family man Ed Avery (James Mason), who has been suffering bouts of severe pain and even blackouts, is hospitalized with what is diagnosed as polyarteritis nodosa, a rare inflammation of the arteries. Told by doctors that he probably has only months to live, Ed agrees to an experimental treatment: doses of the hormone cortisone.
Ed makes a remarkable recovery. He returns home to his wife, Lou (Barbara Rush), and their son, Richie (Christopher Olsen). He must keep taking cortisone tablets regularly to prevent a recurrence of his illness. But the "miracle" cure turns into a nightmare when Ed begins to misuse the tablets, causing him to experience wild mood swings and, ultimately, a psychotic episode which threatens the safety of his family.
Depends on what you consider discussion. Maybe if you toned down the hyperbole a bit and actually tried linking to some sources rather than just grandiose statements that appear to be just made up, then you would get a discussion.sniper said:some people sure hate discussion.
like Dan Coyle's hanging with LA for "Lance Armstrong's War" - what an expose!sniper said:^this.
And never mind that the bulk of the cheating happens ooc.
The only statement that appears to be just made up appears to be your statement that statements just appear to be made up.rata de sentina said:Depends on what you consider discussion. Maybe if you toned down the hyperbole a bit and actually tried linking to some sources rather than just grandiose statements that appear to be just made up, then you would get a discussion.sniper said:some people sure hate discussion.
I don't much like Wiggins or Sky for that matter and at best I consider them hypocritical. But I'll be damned if I'm going to clamber on the hyperbolic bandwagon that you, Benotti69, thehog, and others of your ilk have got going here.
rata de sentina said:Depends on what you consider discussion. Maybe if you toned down the hyperbole a bit and actually tried linking to some sources rather than just grandiose statements that appear to be just made up, then you would get a discussion.sniper said:some people sure hate discussion.
I don't much like Wiggins or Sky for that matter and at best I consider them hypocritical. But I'll be damned if I'm going to clamber on the hyperbolic bandwagon that you, Benotti69, thehog, and others of your ilk have got going here.
rata de sentina said:Depends on what you consider discussion. Maybe if you toned down the hyperbole a bit and actually tried linking to some sources rather than just grandiose statements that appear to be just made up, then you would get a discussion.sniper said:some people sure hate discussion.
I don't much like Wiggins or Sky for that matter and at best I consider them hypocritical. But I'll be damned if I'm going to clamber on the hyperbolic bandwagon that you, Benotti69, thehog, and others of your ilk have got going here.
Benotti69 said:The silence from Wiggins and Brailsford tells us all so much, so much.
Benotti69 said:MatParker117 said:Benotti69 said:Ryo Hazuki said:lol obviously a bloodtest was taken on wiggins before that picture. keep going this tinfoil hat cup!
You forgotten the lies told by Wiggins and Brailsford/Sky.
One doesn't need a tinfoil hat not to be stupid, but others could do with not burying their head in the sand.
Yeah, with two embedded film crews and surrounded by the world's media.
Mat, keep defending liars, this sport has been a cesspit for a long time. Sky said they were going to be whiter than white. They drew this heat, they lied. The **** is hitting the fan because they made it so.
Now you want to get pedantic on a plaster, great. But Wiggins is a doper. That is clear. In the words of Braislford, you don't lie on Monday, but not on TUEsday. You dont lie about legal dope and not take illegal dope.
I think fans have the right to be cynical about everything in this sport, to doubt and question everything. If you cant see that than you cant see this sport has huge problems still.
sniper said:the full passage is even more incroyable:
https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/779248229632372736
sniper said:the full passage is even more incroyable:
https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/779248229632372736
Surely you don't believe Lance Armstrong? We already know riders are flying under the radar whilst microdosing with EPO and more. And one has to be a moron to trip the ABP.PremierAndrew said:Benotti69 said:MatParker117 said:Benotti69 said:Ryo Hazuki said:lol obviously a bloodtest was taken on wiggins before that picture. keep going this tinfoil hat cup!
You forgotten the lies told by Wiggins and Brailsford/Sky.
One doesn't need a tinfoil hat not to be stupid, but others could do with not burying their head in the sand.
Yeah, with two embedded film crews and surrounded by the world's media.
Mat, keep defending liars, this sport has been a cesspit for a long time. Sky said they were going to be whiter than white. They drew this heat, they lied. The **** is hitting the fan because they made it so.
Now you want to get pedantic on a plaster, great. But Wiggins is a doper. That is clear. In the words of Braislford, you don't lie on Monday, but not on TUEsday. You dont lie about legal dope and not take illegal dope.
I think fans have the right to be cynical about everything in this sport, to doubt and question everything. If you cant see that than you cant see this sport has huge problems still.
Maybe he did, but its unlikely that he took stuff during the Tour. Lance said that all his doping was done before his Tours, but during the Tours themself, he rode clean as there was too much testing. Whether that's true or not is debatable, maybe he had some micro top ups that wouldn't be detected by testing 24 hrs later. But you reckon Wiggins would go speak to the media with a plaster on a vein that wasn't from testing? Come on, he's not stupid
PremierAndrew said:Benotti69 said:MatParker117 said:Benotti69 said:Ryo Hazuki said:lol obviously a bloodtest was taken on wiggins before that picture. keep going this tinfoil hat cup!
You forgotten the lies told by Wiggins and Brailsford/Sky.
One doesn't need a tinfoil hat not to be stupid, but others could do with not burying their head in the sand.
Yeah, with two embedded film crews and surrounded by the world's media.
Mat, keep defending liars, this sport has been a cesspit for a long time. Sky said they were going to be whiter than white. They drew this heat, they lied. The **** is hitting the fan because they made it so.
Now you want to get pedantic on a plaster, great. But Wiggins is a doper. That is clear. In the words of Braislford, you don't lie on Monday, but not on TUEsday. You dont lie about legal dope and not take illegal dope.
I think fans have the right to be cynical about everything in this sport, to doubt and question everything. If you cant see that than you cant see this sport has huge problems still.
Maybe he did, but its unlikely that he took stuff during the Tour. Lance said that all his doping was done before his Tours, but during the Tours themself, he rode clean as there was too much testing. Whether that's true or not is debatable, maybe he had some micro top ups that wouldn't be detected by testing 24 hrs later. But you reckon Wiggins would go speak to the media with a plaster on a vein that wasn't from testing? Come on, he's not stupid
That index actually was in reference to 2009. So the Wiggins that suddenly became a gt contender. The Armstrong that podiumed the Tour. The Menchov that got a free pass from the offici als because Rabobank was nice enough to fire Rasmussen. The Popovych that went on-off-on from 2007-2009.PremierAndrew said:sniper said:the full passage is even more incroyable:
https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/779248229632372736
Funny how Wiggins doesn't mention that his rating of 5 on the index of suspicion meant that he had the same rating as Contador and Vino and was more suspicious than Lance (2010 Lance, not 99-05 but still)
And Wiggins wasn't exactly flying in the 2010 Tour
Benotti69 said:Michael Rasmussen is being interviewed by BBCs Mark Daly about Wiggins and TUEs tonight 22.30 BST.
Also Daly talks to Prentice Steffen, Wiggins team Doc in 2008/09 with Slipstream