Wiggins Discussion thread.

[rote_laterne]

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Wigans won't ride on the road anymore...who'll really notice anyway?

I thought I'll ride Tour of York?

 

[Miburo]

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I don't understand all this bashing of Wiggins. He has had an amazing career and has definitely been one of the best riders of his time. And if all he can do is time trial, then why criticize him for winning a GT? For me, that's quite an accomplishment for someone who can only time trial. An accomplishment that should be appreciated, not criticized. And as someone else mentioned, Indurain didn't get hated on even though all he did was destroying the competition on time trials. Why the hate on Wiggins then?

I don't hate on Wiggins, he achieved great thing. He's definitely up there but it's a fact that froome was the better climber and the only reason wiggins won that was cause froome was on a leash.

Idc how much you trained for it and it might be harsh but it takes away from the victory when your teammate was the better rider.

 

[IndianCyclist]

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I don't understand all this bashing of Wiggins. He has had an amazing career and has definitely been one of the best riders of his time. And if all he can do is time trial, then why criticize him for winning a GT? For me, that's quite an accomplishment for someone who can only time trial. An accomplishment that should be appreciated, not criticized. And as someone else mentioned, Indurain didn't get hated on even though all he did was destroying the competition on time trials. Why the hate on Wiggins then?

No hate. My disappointment stems from the number of times he simply seems to give up. The latest being PR. So much was said about PR being the race of the world etc. and how he would like to win it day n day out & how he has prepared for it. No. of attacks made =2 . No. of committed attacks =0. In contrast, Roelandts,Avermaet, Stybar, Degenkolb made one committed attack without the pre race media hoopla. Rast from the breakaway finishes ahead of him. To add insult to injury, Luke Rowe, his domestique, finishes ahead of him for the race that Wiggins specifically targeted.
Having said that, his win in the Worlds TT was pretty good finally winning his just reward.

 

[Dedelou]

Well in the end, although i never really warmed up to him, Wiggins didn't too badly for himself in cycling. His TDF win was what it was: nothing that will be remembered for generation but it did happen as the right moment to ignite a new passion for cycling in England and the merchant will be grateful to him. Probably more so than the fans. He leaves us a champion, just not a great road champion. However, there is an interesting legacy to his career: With the right team, the right money, some good luck, the right man can manage to win the Tour and that should gives hope to a lot of future riders.

 

[richo36]

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I don't understand all this bashing of Wiggins. He has had an amazing career and has definitely been one of the best riders of his time. And if all he can do is time trial, then why criticize him for winning a GT? For me, that's quite an accomplishment for someone who can only time trial. An accomplishment that should be appreciated, not criticized. And as someone else mentioned, Indurain didn't get hated on even though all he did was destroying the competition on time trials. Why the hate on Wiggins then?

No hate. My disappointment stems from the number of times he simply seems to give up. The latest being PR. So much was said about PR being the race of the world etc. and how he would like to win it day n day out & how he has prepared for it. No. of attacks made =2 . No. of committed attacks =0. In contrast, Roelandts,Avermaet, Stybar, Degenkolb made one committed attack without the pre race media hoopla. Rast from the breakaway finishes ahead of him. To add insult to injury, Luke Rowe, his domestique, finishes ahead of him for the race that Wiggins specifically targeted.
Having said that, his win in the Worlds TT was pretty good finally winning his just reward.

Really?? How can you say wiggins first attack was not committed but stybar so called attack committed. Stybar only attacked to catch up to the lead group. However as soon as he got there just sat there. Even tho he stood no chance beating degenkolb in a sprint. So effectively he was just attacking to come second. Wiggins however was the first of the main favourites to launch a serious attack. However when he knew it was doomed he sat up. So he could have another crack later on but it never came/had the legs to contend the finale.

 

[Akuryo]

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I don't understand all this bashing of Wiggins. He has had an amazing career and has definitely been one of the best riders of his time. And if all he can do is time trial, then why criticize him for winning a GT? For me, that's quite an accomplishment for someone who can only time trial. An accomplishment that should be appreciated, not criticized. And as someone else mentioned, Indurain didn't get hated on even though all he did was destroying the competition on time trials. Why the hate on Wiggins then?

No hate. My disappointment stems from the number of times he simply seems to give up. The latest being PR. So much was said about PR being the race of the world etc. and how he would like to win it day n day out & how he has prepared for it. No. of attacks made =2 . No. of committed attacks =0. In contrast, Roelandts,Avermaet, Stybar, Degenkolb made one committed attack without the pre race media hoopla. Rast from the breakaway finishes ahead of him. To add insult to injury, Luke Rowe, his domestique, finishes ahead of him for the race that Wiggins specifically targeted.
Having said that, his win in the Worlds TT was pretty good finally winning his just reward.

Really?? How can you say wiggins first attack was not committed but stybar so called attack committed. Stybar only attacked to catch up to the lead group. However as soon as he got there just sat there. Even tho he stood no chance beating degenkolb in a sprint. So effectively he was just attacking to come second. Wiggins however was the first of the main favourites to launch a serious attack. However when he knew it was doomed he sat up. So he could have another crack later on but it never came/had the legs to contend the finale.

Wasn't it Vandenbergh who attacked first? And he was out in the wind a lot longer than the 5 seconds that Wiggins attacked. Even though he was in pain from his crashes at Wevelgem and Ronde.

 

[elfed68]

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I don't understand all this bashing of Wiggins. He has had an amazing career and has definitely been one of the best riders of his time. And if all he can do is time trial, then why criticize him for winning a GT? For me, that's quite an accomplishment for someone who can only time trial. An accomplishment that should be appreciated, not criticized. And as someone else mentioned, Indurain didn't get hated on even though all he did was destroying the competition on time trials. Why the hate on Wiggins then?

No hate. My disappointment stems from the number of times he simply seems to give up. The latest being PR. So much was said about PR being the race of the world etc. and how he would like to win it day n day out & how he has prepared for it. No. of attacks made =2 . No. of committed attacks =0. In contrast, Roelandts,Avermaet, Stybar, Degenkolb made one committed attack without the pre race media hoopla. Rast from the breakaway finishes ahead of him. To add insult to injury, Luke Rowe, his domestique, finishes ahead of him for the race that Wiggins specifically targeted.
Having said that, his win in the Worlds TT was pretty good finally winning his just reward.

Really?? How can you say wiggins first attack was not committed but stybar so called attack committed. Stybar only attacked to catch up to the lead group. However as soon as he got there just sat there. Even tho he stood no chance beating degenkolb in a sprint. So effectively he was just attacking to come second. Wiggins however was the first of the main favourites to launch a serious attack. However when he knew it was doomed he sat up. So he could have another crack later on but it never came/had the legs to contend the finale.

Wasn't it Vandenbergh who attacked first? And he was out in the wind a lot longer than the 5 seconds that Wiggins attacked. Even though he was in pain from his crashes at Wevelgem and Ronde.

Vandenbergh on another pointless attack, I'm surprised other riders bother to chase him

 

[DBotero]

Wiggins chose the date and the location for the Hour Record attempt:London's 2012 Olympic velodrome, Lee Valley VeloPark on June 7
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins ... -on-june-7

 

[Dedelou]

Wiggins chose the date and the location for the Hour Record attempt:London's 2012 Olympic velodrome, Lee Valley VeloPark on June 7
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins ... -on-june-7

Let's be honest here: The record will be different by the time June 7th will come around but probably not really a challenge to beat for Wiggins. What will matter is by how much it will be broken. My natural suspicious mind leads me to think that this being a "commercial attempt" with great publicity, it might break the existing record just enough to allow other to try to break it in order that Wiggins can come back a little later and retake it again.. I mean why not stretch a good things when there is very little chance of for Wigging to win much elsewhere until the Olympic come around

 

[elfed68]

Wiggins chose the date and the location for the Hour Record attempt:London's 2012 Olympic velodrome, Lee Valley VeloPark on June 7
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins ... -on-june-7

Let's be honest here: The record will be different by the time June 7th will come around but probably not really a challenge to beat for Wiggins. What will matter is by how much it will be broken. My natural suspicious mind leads me to think that this being a "commercial attempt" with great publicity, it might break the existing record just enough to allow other to try to break it in order that Wiggins can come back a little later and retake it again.. I mean why not stretch a good things when there is very little chance of for Wigging to win much elsewhere until the Olympic come around

Judging by the previous things he's done, he seems to be an all or nothing guy.

I think he'll try and make it unattainable myself.

 

[oldcrank]

It could come to pass that Sir Brad is chasing two
of Alex Dowsett's records this summer. We will all
now be waiting for Wiggo's first date with destiny
(May 16 on the V718) as an indication of what is
possible on June 7th.
One thing Brad cannot take from Alex is his Gold
Medal from the Commonwealth Games, something
Wiggo surprisingly has never won in his remarkable
career (which is far from over).

 

[ray j willings]

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It could come to pass that Sir Brad is chasing two
of Alex Dowsett's records this summer. We will all
now be waiting for Wiggo's first date with destiny
(May 16 on the V718) as an indication of what is
possible on June 7th.
One thing Brad cannot take from Alex is his Gold
Medal from the Commonwealth Games, something
Wiggo surprisingly has never won in his remarkable
career (which is far from over).

I would say his road career is done and dusted and i'm not so sure that the track gold in Rio is a shoe in by any means.
The hour record is really another way like PR for wiggo to satisfy his ego "nothing wrong with that"
I don't think it will be as easy as some are saying it will be. 1 hour full gas things can go wrong.
Lets see how he does.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Hate to be that 1%:
Sir Chris Hoy: Sir Bradley Wiggins has '99% chance' of hour record
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/32315934

 

[Singer01]

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Hate to be that 1%:
Sir Chris Hoy: Sir Bradley Wiggins has '99% chance' of hour record
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/32315934" target="_blank" rel="nofollow

your comment doesn't make any sense, it would if chris hoy had said '99% of people think wiggins will break the hour record'.

i personally expect him to smash it (the current record, depends on how much dowsett adds if any).

 

[Shame]

I'm thinking he does around 53 to 53.25. If he went to the same track as Rohan and Jens, then 53.5 to 53.75.

The only other rider might be Tony Martin. I think that Wiggins numbers will force other riders to think about going to altitude.

There's a thread for the hour record under track if anyone cares to chime in.

 

[MatParker117]

Apparently he's targeting Boardman's mark.

 

[jens_attacks]

haha don't think so
54 km i think is the maximum for him

 

[May0maniac]

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haha don't think so
54 km i think is the maximum for him

A few months there were rumours about him riding 54 when he simulated the hour record effort in training, but I have no idea if those rumours are reliable or just bs.

 

[Singer01]

how far does he have to go to stop others attempting it due to having no chance of success? 54/54.5?

 

[Dedelou]

The door was open for the record to be "respected" once again.. No matter how high Wiggins would raise the bar, the guy who is going to break his record is already riding... records are made to be broken

 

[Shame]

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The door was open for the record to be "respected" once again.. No matter how high Wiggins would raise the bar, the guy who is going to break his record is already riding... records are made to be broken

I think Cancellara could have done it five years ago. He has sort of tired of time trial training. What I heard was that he essentially dropped the idea of the hour when the rules changed. He wanted to be the first man to ride 50K on the old record bike. That would impress me more than Wiggins doing 53.99K on an aero Pina.

Come join/read/catch-up on the hour discussion thread at 'track racing.'

 

[oldcrank]

If you were one of the thousands of disappointed
sport fans that missed out on tickets to Sir Brad's
Hour when they all sold out in a reported seven
minutes do not despair my friends as tickets
to the 2016 UCI World Track Cycling Championships
at the same venue go on sale to the general public
in 24 days (12 May 2015) and you'll get to see Laura
Trott and Anna Meares as well as Sir Brad .

 

[webvan]

Hope we get some TV coverage !

 

[Dedelou]

If you were one of the thousands of disappointed
sport fans that missed out on tickets to Sir Brad's
Hour when they all sold out in a reported seven
minutes do not despair my friends as tickets
to the 2016 UCI World Track Cycling Championships
at the same venue go on sale to the general public
in 24 days (12 May 2015) and you'll get to see Laura
Trott and Anna Meares as well as Sir Brad .

Now that is really a true delicious proprosition getting to see "beauties and tolerate the beast"

 

[Pricey_sky]

If you were one of the thousands of disappointed
sport fans that missed out on tickets to Sir Brad's
Hour when they all sold out in a reported seven
minutes do not despair my friends as tickets
to the 2016 UCI World Track Cycling Championships
at the same venue go on sale to the general public
in 24 days (12 May 2015) and you'll get to see Laura
Trott and Anna Meares as well as Sir Brad .

Now that is really a true delicious proprosition getting to see "beauties and tolerate the beast"

That's no way to talk about Anna Meares!