Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Big Doopie]

Vino only doped once, and that was because he was taken out by an awful fall, wereupon Saxo put minutes into him as the duchebags they were, and people started climbing very fast.

Nice.

 

[Big Doopie]

I think it bears repeating because...well...I said it:

One of the incredible injustices of doping is that a victorious doped rider - even after they have been caught - lives off the glorious reputation of all those doped victories for the rest of his career.

 

[EnacheV]

Pretty disappointing really.

He only had a small amount of clen (not performance enhancing).
Ya, so other guys are doing it.
Since they all do it, it is a level playing field.
I think he is a great rider, and would win clean, if everyone else is clean.
Your all a bunch of hypocrites.
You are all a bunch of moralizers.
The CAS said he wasn't blood doping, so therefore he wasn't.
You can't prove it.


Same BULLSHOT, different day.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I tried out "Sayar style" today and it worked very well just thought I'd let you know.

 

[Digger]

Pretty disappointing really.

He only had a small amount of clen (not performance enhancing).
Ya, so other guys are doing it.
Since they all do it, it is a level playing field.
I think he is a great rider, and would win clean, if everyone else is clean.
Your all a bunch of hypocrites.
You are all a bunch of moralizers.
The CAS said he wasn't blood doping, so therefore he wasn't.
You can't prove it.


Same BULLSHOT, different day.

 

[RownhamHill]

Which is exactly what you're doing, only worse because you've already convicted Contador. I suspect Contador, and I suspect Sky. To suspect one and not the other is just illogical.

Accept, I suppose, for the small matter of the positive test, stripped tdf title and two year ban for doping?

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Accept, I suppose, for the small matter of the positive test, stripped tdf title and two year ban for doping?

Technically doping. 50 pictograms or 50 trillionths of a gram of clen without a hope in hell of its having a performance enhancing effect.

It is sort of like being convicted of attempted murder by accidentally cutting someone reaching for food in the food line and being sentenced to two years.

AC haters love to ignore the facts.

 

[EnacheV]

what makes him (Armstrong) worse than, say, a Contador?

 

[hrotha]

http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2014/04/15/mas_ciclismo/1397521921_494621.html
"Teide and the Sky methods, the foundations of the new Contador"

The article even quotes Ferrari. It's just PERFECT.

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2014/04/15/mas_ciclismo/1397521921_494621.html
"Teide and the Sky methods, the foundations of the new Contador"

The article even quotes Ferrari. It's just PERFECT.

Oh god

 

[ralphbert]

what makes him (Armstrong) worse than, say, a Contador?

Either you follow cycling or you don't. Make up your mind.

 

[martinvickers]

Either you follow cycling or you don't. Make up your mind.

How about answering the question?

 

[deviant]

Technically doping. 50 pictograms or 50 trillionths of a gram of clen without a hope in hell of its having a performance enhancing effect.

It is sort of like being convicted of attempted murder by accidentally cutting someone reaching for food in the food line and being sentenced to two years.

AC haters love to ignore the facts.

The amount found may not have given a performance boost but chemicals have half lives.
At some point he took Clen but by the time he was tested for it the amount in his body was minuscule due to the body excreting a certain amount, the liver processing the chemical, the natural half live of the compound etc etc....doesnt change the fact he took Clen, thought he was clean but they found a trace of it.... > ....banned and quite rightly too.

 

[BradCantona]

The amount found may not have given a performance boost but chemicals have half lives.
At some point he took Clen but by the time he was tested for it the amount in his body was minuscule due to the body excreting a certain amount, the liver processing the chemical, the natural half live of the compound etc etc....doesnt change the fact he took Clen, thought he was clean but they found a trace of it.... > ....banned and quite rightly too.

This point shouldn't even need to be made, it's just blatant common sense. Otherwise people are of the opinion dopers take a project, it exists in their system at full capacity for a given period, and then... zap, nothing?

No offence to RobbieC, but it's hard to look at an argument credibly if you're contesting stuff like this

 

[Ripper]

Either you follow cycling or you don't. Make up your mind.

Thanks for this ... it saved me from responding!

 

[the sceptic]

http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2014/04/15/mas_ciclismo/1397521921_494621.html
"Teide and the Sky methods, the foundations of the new Contador"

The article even quotes Ferrari. It's just PERFECT.

Contador going full *** while recycling all the sky excuses would be fantastic.

 

[Benotti69]

Contador going full *** while recycling all the sky excuses would be fantastic.

The thing is I dont see anyone challenging Contador the way they have done on Sky.

Sky set themselves up for it by making massive declarations of being clean, ZTP and transparency and then winning with 2 guys who were grupetto fodder.

Also Tinkov will blacklist anyone who criticises T-Axo.

 

[deviant]

The thing is I dont see anyone challenging Contador the way they have done on Sky.

Brailsford hates the european scene, if he can find some proof of Contador's current doping i reckon he'd happily go to the UCI or the press with it....especially if his boys start getting whipped by the now 'full-***' Contador....could we start to see inter team espionage of the likes present in F1?

 

[the sceptic]

The thing is I dont see anyone challenging Contador the way they have done on Sky.

Sky set themselves up for it by making massive declarations of being clean, ZTP and transparency and then winning with 2 guys who were grupetto fodder.

Also Tinkov will blacklist anyone who criticises T-Axo.

I would think if Contador starts dropping Froome the questions will start flying from the british media at least.

 

[BYOP88]

I would think if Contador starts dropping Froome the questions will start flying from the british media at least.

But if Froome drops Contador they'll say nothing.

 

[Benotti69]

I would think if Contador starts dropping Froome the questions will start flying from the british media at least.

Nope, because the Spanish media will point to De Jongh and say Contador is only doing what Sky have done

If the Brit media question Contador it could backfire.

 

[Benotti69]

But if Froome drops Contador they'll say nothing.

David Walsh's twitter could be fun this July

 

[analogue17]

I would think if Contador starts dropping Froome the questions will start flying from the british media at least.

What do you want to say? Regardless of the outcome, no camp will criticize another one. British press plays it out in a dirtier way?

 

[martinvickers]

I would think if Contador starts dropping Froome the questions will start flying from the british media at least.

They will, yes. And a lot of it'll be unfair nationalistic cr^p too. but in a sense, that's the price Berti pays for being found out before.

If it was, for example Nibali or Quintana, I'm pretty sure nothing like the amount of questions would be raised. That's just the reality.

One is reminded of a rather choice verse about the subject of the UK Media -

You cannot hope
to bribe or twist,
thank God! the
British journalist.
But, seeing what
the man will do
unbribed, there's
no occasion to

 

[Netserk]

Lol, that's a funny verse Vickers