Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[nowhereman]

Bravo Alberto!!!!

Sorry but, the silence from the testing Labs is deafening.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Seriously, you are comparing what happened yesterday to what Landis pulled in 06!!!

Lets see, Landis attacked solo from 100k out with 5 climbs in front of him inclduing the HC Col de Joux Plane plus two 1st cat climbs. He stayed away on his own catching and quickly spitting out the break and won the stage by over 5 minutes having conceded 9 the previous day.

Contador attacked 50km out over a 2nd cat climb, bridged up to a sizeable group whereupon his Saxo team-mated pulled it along until the final sprint with 20k to go when he attacked again to drag Tiralongo with him who promptly did the majority of the work before dropping with about 15k to go and Contador barely held of Valverde at the finish line whom he once had a 2 minute lead over. Yes just like Lanids in 06

I dont mind people claiming yesterdays performance was somehow proof of doping but the gross exaggeration's are just stupid really.

Good post.

Of course it was not 'Landis' or 'Boonen Paris - Roubaix'. Sometimes people need to exaggorate to make a point...

My problem isn't so much the performance by Contador, it is the team effort day after day by team Saxo.

Contador didn't gain any more time on Rodriguez once he hit the 2 minutes 30 margin. Valverde on the other hand gained - on his own - more than 1 minute on Contador. Much more suspicious in my book.

And, not to forget: Contador dropped his silly pistolero act at the finish, a good thing.

 

[Benotti69]

Sorry but, the silence from the testing Labs is deafening.

Yeah those same labs that couldn't find evidence of Armstrongs doping nor Marion Jones nor Michelle Smith.

Chapeau Pharmador for beating stoneage testing.

 

[gheizhwinder]

Contador didn't gain any more time on Rodriguez once he hit the 2 minutes 30 margin. Valverde on the other hand gained - on his own - more than 1 minute on Contador. Much more suspicious in my book.

Valverde was not on his own though, he had Quintana and Intxausti(?).

 

[meat puppet]

if anything, the germans ought to be happy that spanish sports are sailing on. given the current situation tennis, football, f1 and cycling must be like the only functional industries in spain at the moment.

tell em, angela. tell em that otherwise you pay more. if no bang bang toy pistol, then bang bang liquidity bazooka.

 

[roundabout]

So, a temporary "boost" coinciding with the rest day and a mediocre finish.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Way to show your complete lack of knowledge on the subject of blood doping. The effect would not be diminished at all just a few days later.

 

[roundabout]

I didn't say blood doping, did I?

 

[Parrulo]

I didn't say blood doping, did I?

So **** off, mr armachair hematologist.

roundabout either you stop insulting every1 that disagrees with you or you will face a ban.

 

[killswitch]

roundabout either you stop insulting every1 that disagrees with you or you will face a ban.

Apply the same to some of the Contador fans in this forum. Why is sartoris for example not banned?

 

[sartoris]

So, a temporary "boost" coinciding with the rest day and a mediocre finish.

This or: "He's so strong that he had to dissemble a little bit today".

Either way, haters, Contador has won the Vuelta again, as many of us foresaw and wished.

It's up to you to smoulder in your own bile or join his admirers and enjoy his epic performances..... Good luck!

 

[Parrulo]

Apply the same to some of the Contador fans in this forum. Why is sartoris for example not banned?

after a quick read on this thread. . . are you really comparing calling other people "haters" which is normal internet non offensive slang with telling some1 to "**** off"?

other then that i don't follow many threads on the clinic (this one and the rodriguez one for a little bit) so i don't really know what's happening on other threads.

 

[Parrulo]

This or: "He's so strong that he had to dissemble a little bit today".

Either way, haters, Contador has won the Vuelta again, as many of us foresaw and wished.

It's up to you to smoulder in your own bile or join his admirers and enjoy his epic performances..... Good luck!

well this is crossing the line a little bit. one thing is one harmless "haters" but this is no doubt crossing the line.

either stop with this type of comments or you will also face a ban.

and thank you for making me regret defending you only 10 seconds after i did it. . . .

 

[sartoris]

Apply the same to some of the Contador fans in this forum. Why is sartoris for example not banned?

I don't insult. I just like using childish humour at times to get on your nerves. Maybe you feel insulted, but that's your view and, obviously, quite far from my intention.

PS: Enjoy Alberto's victory !!

See?

 

[silverrocket]

i doubt any sort of stats will be able to disprove what most observers take for granted, namely that spain's generacion de oro is based on juice.
of course other countries juice and spain has merely cauight up, I realize that. but spain's athletic uprising in the 90s and 2000s was one of the most farcical illustrations of institutionalized doping of contemporary sports.

Countering actual statistics with your own subjective impressions and a bit of hyperbole is not very convincing.

 

[jilbiker]

Having read the A-B-C of cycling doping aka Tyler's book, I have a better idea of cyclist body behavior in these races. I would say that AC was relatively clean in this Vuelta. The look on his face today confirmed it. Clearly one could see the impact of the wednesday solo dash. Hard to say anyone can win these 3 wk races on just bread and water but the Vuelta this year had reasonable distances, most were less than 200km and we had quite a few at 150+. All other tours should take a hint.

 

[jpljpl]

What does the average stage distance have to do with advantages of doping?
Marion Jones hardly ever went beyond 400m each day, yet found doping quite useful.

Anyway, it's sad to see ex-dopers coming first and second.

 

[LaFlorecita]

What does the average stage distance have to do with advantages of doping?
Marion Jones hardly ever went beyond 400m each day, yet found doping quite useful.

Anyway, it's sad to see ex-dopers coming first and second.

Vamos Alberto and Piti!!

Shorter stages = less hard = less doping

(or something like that)

 

[Parrulo]

Vamos Alberto and Piti!!

Shorter stages = less hard = less doping

(or something like that)

which would make sense if riders were doping to reach the finish line and not to beat each other. . .

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Shorter stages = less hard = less doping

Exactly. The 1988 Olympic Men's 100m is proof of that.

 

[D-Queued]

What does the average stage distance have to do with advantages of doping?
Marion Jones hardly ever went beyond 400m each day, yet found doping quite useful.

Anyway, it's sad to see ex-dopers coming first and second.

Maybe I am a momentary Contador fan, but I found it comforting to see him regain the lead in an 'incredible' performance. Gave me confidence that the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

Ultimately, I was hoping that Froome would put over ten minutes on everyone while still being yelled at to slow down, or we could have a known doper win.

A marginal performance by the most obvious enhanced performer this year would have been disappointing.

Known dopers give us comfort that all is well again in the sport of cycling.

Let's call it the year of the double:

The Vuelta and the Olympics won by known dopers whose high profile doping cases embarrassed the sport.

Wiggins wins at least double anyone else.

The Wiggins' double, the Froome Wagon, provides doubly enhanced entertainment.

Dave.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Exactly. The 1988 Olympic Men's 100m is proof of that.

Cycling is different

 

[Danilot]

As long as there is money and glory awaiting the first man across the finish line, riders will dope even if the race is just 1*km in a straight line downhill.

 

[ebandit]

bang bang

one must be suspicious of alberto with his 'history' and the way he sliced through the field on his 'epic' ride..............it was not the time gained but the way he left several riders trailing in his wake

and as the no 1 contender he was heavily marked..........wish i could see the stage from the start to ascertain more........mostly to see how much softening up was done by saxo - tinkof before the race went live

but good luck to sartoris and laflo ..........let the alberto fans have their fun
they deserve it after alberto's forced holiday

 

[Bicycle]

Albert enjoying his juicy steaks again!