Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[The Hitch]

.Are you really suggesting that Kevin Durant or Lebron James or Usain Bolt or Sidney Crosby or Derek Jeter or Roger Federer or Adam Scott or Tom Brady or Lionel Messi need to dope?
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Ok lets go through this

KD

Maybe not. But it would help.

Lebron

see above

messi

Umm it's known he doped hgh as a kid and that barca is so doped their blood profiles wouldnt even fit on the usual blood profile scale.

brady

They don't even test for hgh in nfl. I suppose manning is a good example of someone who theoretically wouldn't need to dope, since athletic prowess isn't that big a part of his game.

Crosby

Don't know about that sport, but didn't someone test p in the Olympics?

Adam Scott

Who?

bolt

Derek jetter

Spits soup. - baseball!!!!

 

[hrotha]

Wait is this your list of clean athletes?

Kevin Durant or Lebron James or Usain Bolt or Sidney Crosby or Derek Jeter or Roger Federer or Adam Scott or Tom Brady or Lionel Messi

If you hadn't registered in 2010 I'd totes call troll on this one.

 

[BYOP88]

Spits soup. - baseball!!!!

You better take that back!!!!

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Wait is this your list of clean athletes?

If you hadn't registered in 2010 I'd totes call troll on this one.

Yep, that is my list. What is your point?

 

[roundabout]

I was following the race on this forum when everyone said AC was destroying the field. I don't know, maybe it is just me, but when I saw the highlights, there was nothing particularly exceptional about it that made me scream doped up performance, compared to usual.

Maybe you should watch it again.

Hint, he was 15% faster than the rest over the last ~400 meters of the climb.

Would have been the favorite for Fleche Wallonne, but decided to gift it

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Maybe you should watch it again.

Hint, he was 15% faster than the rest over the last ~400 meters of the climb.

Would have been the favorite for Fleche Wallonne, but decided to gift it

Hint! That is what you call inherent, inborn natural skill and talent my friend plus a whole lot of experience!

 

[hrotha]

Yep, that is my list. What is your point?

My point is that most of those names range from "dubious" to "ridiculous" in the clean-to-doped spectrum.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

My point is that most of those names range from "dubious" to "ridiculous" in the clean-to-doped spectrum.

You have a serious case of delusion disorder or a severe lack of knowledge of these athletes. Is that why your personal profile is silent? Hiding behind anonymity?

 

[Samson777]

Or there's a new sheriff at the UCI, and everybody feels free to step it up now without Pat in charge?

That would be kinda "normal" thinking like that, in all kind of aspect in life. When there is a new guy in charge, you go and test where the limit is.

 

[roundabout]

Hint! That is what you call inherent, inborn natural skill and talent my friend plus a whole lot of experience!

http://www.moonforsale.com/

 

[happychappy]

You have a serious case of delusion disorder or a severe lack of knowledge of these athletes.

The irony of this post is delicious.

 

[hrotha]

You have a serious case of delusion disorder or a severe lack of knowledge of these athletes. Is that why your personal profile is silent? Hiding behind anonymity?

Haha, the anonymity card. Well done. My name is irrelevant, but as a matter of fact I *have* posted it here before. Look it up if you want.

Your reasoning seems to be that if you're naturally talented you won't dope, which ignores the very simple fact that, if you're up against an exact copy of yourself, with the same talent and professionalism, but who dopes on top of that, you'll lose 99% of the time.

 

[The Hitch]

You have a serious case of delusion disorder or a severe lack of knowledge of these athletes. Is that why your personal profile is silent? Hiding behind anonymity?

You think Messi is clean and you call other people delusional

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Ok lets go through this
Maybe not. But it would help.


see above



Umm it's known he doped hgh as a kid and that barca is so doped their blood profiles wouldnt even fit on the usual blood profile scale.

They don't even test for hgh in nfl. I suppose manning is a good example of someone who theoretically wouldn't need to dope, since athletic prowess isn't that big a part of his game.


Don't know about that sport, but didn't someone test p in the Olympics?



Who?






Spits soup. - baseball!!!!

Clever.

1. Durant and James don't need the help. Pure, raw, unadulterated talent.

2. Messi - Where is your evidence that is "it is known" he "doped" hgh as a kid. He does have a well documented congenital growth problem for which HGH would be a natural medical prescription as opposed to him using it as a performance enhancer. That answers your post at #1868 as well.

3.HGH in the NFL - As at July 23, 2013 every player in the NFL had to provide the league with an HGH profile. I agree with you on Manning

4. Sidney Crosby is the best hockey player in the world. Live a sheltered life do you?

5. Nikolas Backstrom - Swedish hockey player. Tested positive at the Sochi Olympics for a cold medication. Ineligble to play in the gold medal game. Sweden lost to Canada and won the silver medal. The IOC admitted they made a mistake with Backstrom and awarded him his silver medal.

6. Bolt - all skill. His height is his key.

7. Adam Scott - ranked number 2 golfer in the world. From Australia. Won last years Masters.

8. Jeter - spits sunflower seeds and not soup. Number 8 on the all time list of baseball players for hits. Cricket!!!!!

You are slipping Hitch. You need to get off that island and visit the colonies

 

[RobbieCanuck]

http://www.moonforsale.com/

In Canada as a promotion after the lunar landing in 1969 certificates of sections of the moon were sold as a fundraiser. So I have my patch. Want to but it?

 

[go crazy]

Thought this was the Contador thread?

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Haha, the anonymity card. Well done. My name is irrelevant, but as a matter of fact I *have* posted it here before. Look it up if you want.

Your reasoning seems to be that if you're naturally talented you won't dope, which ignores the very simple fact that, if you're up against an exact copy of yourself, with the same talent and professionalism, but who dopes on top of that, you'll lose 99% of the time.

No my reasoning is that there are huge numbers of athletes at the top of their sport who don't have to dope because of their natural athletic skill. Cycling is an exception because of the perverted logic "I have to dope to level the playing field" that has cycling in the mess it is in today.

The irony is that 99% of the ones who doped - Ulrich, Pantani, Indurain and Landis for example probably didn't have to dope to begin with. They were just that good. Would they have called out the dopers and would they have won if they had competed clean who knows what would have happened at this stage.

So back to Contador. In my personal opinion he is so good he does not need to dope and I cross my fingers that since July 21, 2010 he has not. Keeping in mind the fact the negligible clen found would not have given him a performance enhancing benefit at that years TDF.

 

[Parrulo]

After some of these posts this is my only reaction:

 

[happychappy]

 

[RobbieCanuck]

After some of these posts this is my only reaction:

More like "Qu'est-ce que c'est?"

 

[Dear Wiggo]

When DB said clean performances will soon surpass doped ones,
1. I didn't realise RobbieCanuck was in agreement
2. I don't think DB meant Contador.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

I wouldn't know, ask Ryder and Michael Barry. I think those bags are from Nowhere!

 

[Hugh Januss]

Wait is this your list of clean athletes?

If you hadn't registered in 2010 I'd totes call troll on this one.

Yep, that is my list. What is your point?

That's all I've got to say.

 

[Granville57]

When DB said clean performances will soon surpass doped ones,

2. I don't think DB meant Contador.

I probably posted this before somewhere, but this touches on the most delicious part of all of this to me.

If Alberto smokes Chris (and for arguments sake, let's say everyone is in top form), then Sky fans will scream "DOPER!"

If Chris smokes Alberto, Sky fans will scream "Haha! Without the dope, Contador is now nothing!"

But what if they are neck-and-neck, ala Alberto and Andy throughout much of the 2010 TdF, and Contador's numbers are consistent with his finest performances of the past?

Will that mean that both Contador and Froome are now capable achieving clean performances that are equal to or greater than doped performances of the (Contador's) past?

Or are such possibilities only limited to Sky?

Or will the argument be that Froome is able to ride clean at a level that matches a currently doped Contador?

And might that mean that Froome and Sky are clean because the test results say so, but that Contador is doped...just because?

[add your options here]

It will be interesting. I truly hope that both Sky and Saxo show up at the TdF with their top riders and respective teams in top form.

 

[ChrisE]

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Alberto is one hell of a talented cyclist. His only known positive is the clen in 2010 which everyone who understands the issue in his case could not have given him a performance enhancement in the 2010 TDF. All the other suspicions about him are just sheer speculation - navel gazing.

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Somebody got a pic of that "not this shyt again" dude from Star Trek with his palm on his forehead?