Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Scarponi]

Do you think AC seems to be so much better in the Vuelta (post ban) as opposed to the other GT's because he is better able to "prepare" in his home country? Maybe he knows he will not be caught prior or during the race? Maybe he's not so confident in France and Italy?

Maybe but Sammy Sanchez finished 6th or 7th last year so the talent was not high

 

[djpbaltimore]

It looks like Contador might be releasing data as well. Emphasis on 'might'. Greater transparency is a good thing, but I found it interesting that he also casts doubt on those trying to estimate power outputs.

“Sometimes people make calculations that are not real when they speak about my performance. I look at my SRM, and the data is very different from what they say."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-says-he-has-no-problem-releasing-power-data

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It looks like Contador might be releasing data as well. Emphasis on 'might'. Greater transparency is a good thing, but I found it interesting that he also casts doubt on those trying to estimate power outputs.

“Sometimes people make calculations that are not real when they speak about my performance. I look at my SRM, and the data is very different from what they say."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-says-he-has-no-problem-releasing-power-data

Of course he won't. Journalists always ask if he would be willing to release them and he always says "yes why not" but in the end no one pushes him to actually release them.
And of course he says there is an issue with calculating power outputs, in 2009 Vayer's calculations caused a big *** storm for him.

 

[gazr99]

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It looks like Contador might be releasing data as well. Emphasis on 'might'. Greater transparency is a good thing, but I found it interesting that he also casts doubt on those trying to estimate power outputs.

“Sometimes people make calculations that are not real when they speak about my performance. I look at my SRM, and the data is very different from what they say."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-says-he-has-no-problem-releasing-power-data

Interesting, hope he does?

But that second part is a big support for Froome

 

[The Hitch]

Yep. Great to have dopers like Contador support Froome. Also Basso who never said Froome was clean, but asked Froome what he eats for breakfast which according to Froome is the same as saying "you are clean". These people know all about doping because they doped and that they now say Froome is clean is encouraging for the sport.

On the other hand we don't want dopers like Jalabert or Rasmussen calling out Froome. They are dopers so have absolutely nothing to offer any discussions. *** cheats.

 

[LeindersGains]

He has given up on winning, right?

No blood bags will be able to cure his time loss.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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He has given up on winning, right?

No blood bags will be able to cure his time loss.

No, he hasn't. He admits he can't beat Froome mano a mano but he hasn't given up.

 

[Walkman]

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Yep. Great to have dopers like Contador support Froome. Also Basso who never said Froome was clean, but asked Froome what he eats for breakfast which according to Froome is the same as saying "you are clean". These people know all about doping because they doped and that they now say Froome is clean is encouraging for the sport.

On the other hand we don't want dopers like Jalabert or Rasmussen calling out Froome. They are dopers so have absolutely nothing to offer any discussions. **** cheats.

I think there is a difference between Jalabert and Rasmussen and that is Rasmussen can say thing without being a hypocrite. I think he is a bit of a d*ck (saying he would do it all over again, dope that is) but it would hie to hear him ask honest questions like:

"I was doped on on almost every damn substance available and as shredded as Froome, and still, you climb as fast today as I did back then, care to elaborate on that?"

And not only to Froome, but to all the guys. Nibali almost gets a free pass because he is currently not doing so well. The same with Contador. And, piti! Why not ask him why he is climbing better than ever at the age of 35, after a doping ban?

Cycling needs to start asking the tough questions. We are doing the "must not risk Lance being mad at us for asking the wrong questions all over again".

Heck, even a guy like Lemond (cyclings supposed Mr.Clean) has no problem cozying up with dopers on prime time while asking lame a*s questions.

 

[SeriousSam]

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I think there is a difference between Jalabert and Rasmussen and that is Rasmussen can say thing without being a hypocrite. I think he is a bit of a d*ck (saying he would do it all over again, dope that is) but it would hie to hear him ask honest questions like:

That's honesty, not being a ***. Rasmussen regrets getting exposed as do they all. Not doping. A point in Rasmussen's favour compared to hypocritical liars like Millar.

"I was doped on on almost every damn substance available and as shredded as Froome, and still, you climb as fast today as I did back then, care to elaborate on that?"

Horrible question. The obvious PR effective answer the people Sky are pandering to crave to hear would be given: Froome has natural natural talent, does the hard and honest work, employs advanced Sky science and Rasmussen is a dirty lazy cheater without any talent.

 

[gazr99]

Any thoughts on Contador making what looked like a pre-planned bike change for the final climb? I don't know what to make of it?

 

[BYOP88]

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Any thoughts on Contador making what looked like a pre-planned bike change for the final climb? I don't know what to make of it?

The one he uses for final climbs had a needle in the saddle that injects him with steak blood when he sits down.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Any thoughts on Contador making what looked like a pre-planned bike change for the final climb? I don't know what to make of it?

He always makes planned bike changes before the final climb. Different gearing, probably a lighter bike and lighter, more delicate tubulars that cannot be raced for more than 30km.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Any thoughts on Contador making what looked like a pre-planned bike change for the final climb? I don't know what to make of it?

The one he uses for final climbs had a needle in the saddle that injects him with steak blood when he sits down.

Is that why he mostly climbs out of the saddle, sits down for a moment and goes out of the saddle again?

 

[TheSpud]

He has just pulled out of San Sebastian with illness - glowing or not?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/news-shorts-illness-forces-contador-to-skip-san-sebastian-and-end-season/

 

[Netserk]

He probably never intended to race San Sebastian.

 

[hrotha]

Yeah, it's like when a Spanish rider skips the nationals with a fever. It's BS, but it's most likely about saving face and not hurting anyone's feelings.

 

[42x16ss]

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Any thoughts on Contador making what looked like a pre-planned bike change for the final climb? I don't know what to make of it?

Which climb? Could be anything, a flat, derailleur not working right, new bike has compact cranks and he's not feeling good, old bike had a motor in it. If he's always doing it before the final climb that is pretty suss...

 

[Big Doopie]

Now clentadoppucci states that Verbiers was one of his two best "wins".

Arguably one of the most obviously doped perfs of all time.

And people wonder why I want him out of cycling.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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And people wonder why I want him out of cycling.

Because he says one his most impressive victories was one of his best wins? Okay then

 

[Red Rick]

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Now clentadoppucci states that Verbiers was one of his two best "wins".

Arguably one of the most obviously doped perfs of all time.

And people wonder why I want him out of cycling.

Old news bruh, or are you afraid you'll miss your monthly clentadopucci quotum otherwise?

Anyway, won his mosts stressing Tour there, go figure

Who do you think should get the 2009 Tour title?

 

[Taxus4a]

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Yep. Great to have dopers like Contador support Froome. Also Basso who never said Froome was clean, but asked Froome what he eats for breakfast which according to Froome is the same as saying "you are clean". These people know all about doping because they doped and that they now say Froome is clean is encouraging for the sport.

On the other hand we don't want dopers like Jalabert or Rasmussen calling out Froome. They are dopers so have absolutely nothing to offer any discussions. **** cheats.

I think there is a difference between Jalabert and Rasmussen and that is Rasmussen can say thing without being a hypocrite. I think he is a bit of a d*ck (saying he would do it all over again, dope that is) but it would hie to hear him ask honest questions like:

"I was doped on on almost every damn substance available and as shredded as Froome, and still, you climb as fast today as I did back then, care to elaborate on that?"

And not only to Froome, but to all the guys. Nibali almost gets a free pass because he is currently not doing so well. The same with Contador. And, piti! Why not ask him why he is climbing better than ever at the age of 35, after a doping ban?

Cycling needs to start asking the tough questions. We are doing the "must not risk Lance being mad at us for asking the wrong questions all over again".

Heck, even a guy like Lemond (cyclings supposed Mr.Clean) has no problem cozying up with dopers on prime time while asking lame a*s questions.

You are not right. they are not doing the same performance that in the past. valverde of course is not doing the same performance. He is getting best result becouse now there is no dooping or a light level, as Evens did. he didnt take a big advantage by doping, by the contrary, for him is better there is no doping, becouse he has a great talent, He just need good weather, and that is what he had this Tour, not in 2014.

You start by lies, so you get wrong conclusions, as a lot people here.

You never as well take into account the improvement in techonology and other aspect that cycling has done last years. that is not an improvement so hight as the level of doping that we had in the 2000, but it is important.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Ahhh so doping stopped in 2000. And then 2006. Then 2008. Now, 7 years later, Tommy D is done for EPO. Not sure why he started again after so many years off.

Contador is still on it. Froome beats him coz he's on it even more.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Ahhh so doping stopped in 2000. And then 2006. Then 2008. Now, 7 years later, Tommy D is done for EPO. Not sure why he started again after so many years off.

Contador is still on it. Froome beats him coz he's on it even more.

When I have said that?? I said 2000 to say one year of the worse era.

Doping was hight till 2006, OP put some dopers out, and people had more problomes to dope just after.

Anyway things went similar, but in 2008 BP started, later other advances, and in 2012 the system started to work.
for me 2008-2011, as i said lot of times, so you comment has no sense, is the transitional era, when the doping was decrasing, but still important. it was a question of cycling survival, not just a question of antidoping, cycling world realized thing couldnt go on that way, doping made lot of pain in cycling.

Now we are in an era were doping is there as always is going to be, but its influence is no so important, it is just a question (in WT) of some riders, with little advantage and most of them get cautch.

Now, if you are good, you can win any race, and that is for me a clean era.

The presure must keep.

 

[doperhopper]

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Ahhh so doping stopped in 2000. And then 2006. Then 2008. Now, 7 years later, Tommy D is done for EPO. Not sure why he started again after so many years off.

Contador is still on it. Froome beats him coz he's on it even more.

When I have said that?? I said 2000 to say one year of the worse era.

Doping was hight till 2006, OP put some dopers out, and people had more problomes to dope just after.

Anyway things went similar, but in 2008 BP started, later other advances, and in 2012 the system started to work.
for me 2008-2011, as i said lot of times, so you comment has no sense, is the transitional era, when the doping was decrasing, but still important. it was a question of cycling survival, not just a question of antidoping, cycling world realized thing couldnt go on that way, doping made lot of pain in cycling.

Now we are in an era were doping is there as always is going to be, but its influence is no so important, it is just a question (in WT) of some riders, with little advantage and most of them get cautch.

Now, if you are good, you can win any race, and that is for me a clean era.

The presure must keep.

Well, influence not important... as a baseline, we can safely assume anything not currently detectable is widely used. Still thinking "not important"?

Lots of stuff out there, you know, some even field-tested (like microdosing vs. biopass). If something can shake the fortress of pro-doping environment, it's full *** unconditional no limit retrotesting threat as suggested in many places years and years ago.

Or the usual and obvious final solution: riders locked in a "big brother" like CCC - Clean Cycling Camp supervised by the CCL (Clean Cycling League) organizers who could hire guys like Bassons/Delion/etc. for that (and pay them what they were deprived of by the DEO, Doper Empire of Evil.

 

[Bannockburn]

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If something stole races from Evans, it was gutless cowardly wheel following by a certain Australian

But that is impossible to proof, except if UCI want really clearyfy as much as possible the dark era...and I dont think so, so much to hide then.

Your laughable assumptions about Evans and Sastre are also impossible to proof, but you keep digging there, good soldier, and hopefully you'll someday be able to clearyfy it all up for the rest of us.