Will Wiggins Still Win the Giro?

[the sceptic]

Hope he does actually would be nice to have a clean winner good for the sports image etc.

thats why you laughed when Nibali crashed?

 

[airstream]

Omg, apparently adrenaline and thrombotonin hit many heads so much that people will ridicule Wiggins for a week as minimum. Wiggins can't descend - bad, shame etc. If Wiggins lets assume was the first out of the big guns today, there would have been even more impartial reviews. What the hell you need?

 

[HiCadence]

thats why you laughed when Nibali crashed?

Don't see what that has to do with Wiggins winning the Giro?

 

[Parrulo]

Drop the clinic talk

 

[Jelantik]

Really odd last couple of days riding by Wiggo. Not making much of an effort in the climbs, leading the peleton to the 3k yesterday, constantly looking around himself. Doesn't look like someone who's going to last three weeks at the moment, but why? In order of most probability I'd say

I was wondering about that too. And i didn't see any of his team mates either. I wonder if sky wasn't as peace as it might look like. This week we heard about columbian mutiny. Last week, brailsford has to reinstate that Froome is the TDF leader after a war in press between Froome and Wiggins. And so far, wiggins hasn't talked that much to the press. In contrast with how he spoke a lot before hand, about his chances of loosing only few seconds here and there from Nibali in the mountain. And last he talked about he smoked nibali in TDF, he believed he could beat Nibali. That's a lot of promise before the event even started. He put the pressure to himself i guess, now he gotta back up what he said. I'm sure on the rest day, the press will ask wiggins about what he thinks that Froome is the leader for TDF? I'm curious of what his reaction will be.

 

[Angliru]

Lance said it. So it must be true

Lance was misinformed. They were cheering when a collage of footage from 2010 Tour was shown with Armstrong's time on the pavement being the focus.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I think he could still win it.

 

[cineteq]

50% think he will not.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

50% think he will not.

I can understand that .by the way the first option is ridiculous.

 

[thehog]

I think he could still win it.

Nah. The writing has been on the wall all season.

He has won nothing. Been dropped in every races his raced and like the classics team kept talking about the "numbers" but spent more time falling off than winning.

Compare that to Vinnie. Won just about every race. Taken chances, tipped races on its side by daring attacks and got inside the heads of Froome and now Wiggins.

Should also be noted Wiggins hasn't even ridden an ITT this year. Part of Kerrisons master plan of numbers.

 

[Richeypen]

50% think he will not.

50% thought he wouldnt a week ago as well

 

[hfer07]

NO

His possibilities to win aren't there anymore.
Tomorrow's ITT is not 100% suitable for Wiggo to take minutes over the competition due to its technicality, with 3/4 of the length filled with many turns & constant change in gradients.

And i'm not even including the "RAIN FACTOR" plus the damage he's suffered today due to his crashes....

Apart from that-since Wiggo was basically depending on the ITT to win Il Giro-which won't happen-and considering how SKY tactics are working- they have just made the same mistake of the 11 Vuelta where another rider should have been supported to fight for the overall, but Wiggo being option numero uno won't permit it & it will be too late to switch roles afterwards.....

 

[Pentacycle]

agreed

laughing at crashes is a no no . except if you are ryo maybe...

still wiggo left a bad impression today to me. but from this to laughing when he crashes it's a long distance

Well, as you know Ryo lolcries at Dutch(esp. Rabo/Blanco) riders crashing, which is understandable. I think the reactions in the press room were partly caused by Nibali's crash, it was their way of dealing with that. Italians were disappoint in that.

Conditions were horrible today and every rider responds differently, but mostly according to their form. Wiggins seemed to have only worsened since Catalunya, but that's just my impression. The other contenders are looking much more confident.

 

[jamesmasters]

He will not win. It isn't just the fact that he sucks at descending. His attitude for the Giro looks absolutely terrible. When Nibali fell he was scrambling to get back. He is clearly in it to win. When Wiggins fell, he finished the descent like an old granny, with everyone whizzing past him. Complaining about everything, doesn't like the rain, doesn't want to be there, probably no form either.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Nah. The writing has been on the wall all season.

He has won nothing. Been dropped in every races his raced and like the classics team kept talking about the "numbers" but spent more time falling off than winning.

Compare that to Vinnie. Won just about every race. Taken chances, tipped races on its side by daring attacks and got inside the heads of Froome and now Wiggins.

Should also be noted Wiggins hasn't even ridden an ITT this year. Part of Kerrisons master plan of numbers.

I know that your post is drenched in gasoline to flame some Sky fans but there is a point there that I was musing today when watching the stage.

BW has looked nervous all week - obviously he felt pressure to not make any mistakes before the TT. Which is why he was very cautious, but while there is some merit in spinning around Tenerife it could also be that he misses out on the rough and tumble of being in such a big bunch. It takes a small bit of time to get used to again.
It's the downside of Kerrisons approach.

 

[cineteq]

I can understand that .by the way the first option is ridiculous.

In short, hopeless.

Nah. The writing has been on the wall all season.

He has won nothing. Been dropped in every races his raced and like the classics team kept talking about the "numbers" but spent more time falling off than winning.

Compare that to Vinnie. Won just about every race. Taken chances, tipped races on its side by daring attacks and got inside the heads of Froome and now Wiggins.

Should also be noted Wiggins hasn't even ridden an ITT this year. Part of Kerrisons master plan of numbers.

Aren't you the same guy from the clinic, who I always agree with in the Sky thread?

 

[contessador]

Oops...accidently voted no and meant to choose the last option.

He doesn't look happy riding in bad weather and I am guessing he will bail out and concentrate his preparations for TdF.

 

[thehog]

I know that your post is drenched in gasoline to flame some Sky fans but there is a point there that I was musing today when watching the stage.

BW has looked nervous all week - obviously he felt pressure to not make any mistakes before the TT. Which is why he was very cautious, but while there is some merit in spinning around Tenerife it could also be that he misses out on the rough and tumble of being in such a big bunch. It takes a small bit of time to get used to again.
It's the downside of Kerrisons approach.

Not nervous. Well yes nervous but when you're trying to follow a preset plan perfectly you end up messing it all up. He's trying to hard to manufacture a result based on Kerrisons magic numbers machine. The plan was to be 30-45 seconds up going into the ITT. Win the ITT by 2 minutes and then control the race Borg style till the end.

Problem being and like the classics team as soon as you get unpredictable stage or sequence of unexpected events he doesn't know what to do.

Motor pacing in Tenerife day after day after day, watching your SRM and hitting numbers won't teach you how to race.

Nibili has taken Froome apart and now Wiggins in the rain and on descents.

 

[cineteq]

Oops...accidently voted no and meant to choose the last option.

He doesn't look happy riding in bad weather and I am guessing he will bail out and concentrate his preparations for TdF.

You're not alone, but since the OP was Miburo I didn't read it, picked 3. LOL

 

[contessador]

Hello Cineteq - yep, Miburo...opened this thread, I better read more carefully next time

Really do not see Bradley winning finishing this Giro in these "appalling" conditions lol...

 

[Viking]

I picked Wiggins to win int the last poll. I expected him to be virtually tied with Nibali and Hesjedal going into the stage 8 TT. But now he's ~90" back, he's not looking comfortable or confident, and his rivals look to be on perfect form. So I don't think he's going to win it now.

 

[cineteq]

Hello Cineteq - yep, Miburo...opened this thread, I better read more carefully next time

Really do not see Bradley winning finishing this Giro in these "appalling" conditions lol...

Sir Wiggo will DNF and prepare for the Tour, then he'll take away Froome's leadership once and for all. He's a knight thus he can.

PS: Mods please change our 2 votes to the last option, from contessador and yours truly.

 

[benreynoldsnz]

All the stages so far have been very 'classicy' on hilly routes where the Sky Train has never excelled.

I think wait until we hit the likes of Galibier and Wiggo will make more of an impact on the longer climbs!

Should make the race very interesting!

 

[Jelantik]

I know that your post is drenched in gasoline to flame some Sky fans but there is a point there that I was musing today when watching the stage.

BW has looked nervous all week - obviously he felt pressure to not make any mistakes before the TT. Which is why he was very cautious, but while there is some merit in spinning around Tenerife it could also be that he misses out on the rough and tumble of being in such a big bunch. It takes a small bit of time to get used to again.
It's the downside of Kerrisons approach.

Well after he made some comment about his opponents and made prediction about how his chances were before the event started yet, then he is doomed to walk the walk and talk the talk. He even looked ahead about his TDF leadership as if he would have won the Giro. So, he has put the pressure onto himself. Why can't he learn from past champ like contador. Contador always plays down his chances and always says that his opponents are good. Never used his last year win as the benchmark that this year he can beat his rivals easily. So it's easier to over deliver the results. Now wiggin is in unknown territory. I don't remember when the last time he was down as far as time before. So even though on paper he is the best TT and could easily take time from his rivals, but today's stage of rain and descent has put him in a defensive mode.

I can't wait for tomorrow's TT. We should all know how everyone is fare against each other and whether wiggin will smoke everyone as the bookie predicted . Weather forecast is 60% chance of rain ... boy... ow boy...

 

[thehog]

I don't remember when the last time he was down as far as time before.

I do. When he was a grupetto rider about 4 years ago. Before the "transformation".