Will Wiggins Still Win the Giro?

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Will Wiggins Still Win the Giro?

  • He won't even try anymore and give up on one of the next stages.

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maxmartin said:
same applies to Wiggins LMAO

Do not take me wrong. I want Nibali to win. I want him to make Sir Bradley go home next week. It is his race to loose. But if they keep letting him "stay" in the race like they did today they might regret it on the end.
He is not Froome but he is still borg and winner of last Tour afterall
 
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jamesmasters said:
Sky should bring in Brailsford to shout at him. He has a hugely expensive team of riders backing him up and he's not performing at all.

Wiggins' performance in the last few stages...

Stage 6 Dropped on a descent

Stage 7 Dropped on a descent
Stage 8 ITT Lost time on descents
Stage 9 Dropped on a descent

Seems to be a pattern emerging here. And there's no guarantee he won't get dropped on the climbs as well once it gets difficult. It's a miracle he isn't further down in the GC - only a combination of his superiority in the flat part of the ITT, and Astana failing to punish him on today's stage has saved him.

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He was first gapped on top of Santa Maria de Criptis. Di Luca attacked. Nibali, Scarponi and some others reacted very quickly. He didn't. He has never looked good on climbs so far. That doesn't mean he'll be weak on the high mountains. He could be the strongest obviously. But that's the reality so far.
 
SafeBet said:
He was first gapped on top of Santa Maria de Criptis. Di Luca attacked. Nibali, Scarponi and some others reacted very quickly. He didn't. He has never looked good on climbs so far. That doesn't mean he'll be weak on the high mountains. He could be the strongest obviously. But that's the reality so far.

Fine - the point at which he actually separated from the front of the race for good was a descent.
 
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Sorry to break it to you guys, but if he can't ride in the peloton, he can't win the Giro. Be it a physical or a psychological issue.
 
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I can't remember him being actually dropped on a climb so far, like Hesjedal was, but at the same time he has not looked comfortable. Like today for example, he finished with the same time as Nibali but was scrabbling round at the back of the peloton towards the end. You felt as though one attack could well have got rid of him.
 
Netserk said:
Still????

The same as before the Giro. He won't win. Nibali will.

In Italia you have to be able to drive the bike downhill at 70 kph on wet roads into ridiculously tight curves in most regions. It's not just about going uphill fast and the TT's, which is what makes the Giro different than the Tour. ;)
 
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jamesmasters said:
I can't remember him being actually dropped on a climb so far, like Hesjedal was, but at the same time he has not looked comfortable. Like today for example, he finished with the same time as Nibali but was scrabbling round at the back of the peloton towards the end. You felt as though one attack could well have got rid of him.

clearly we are watching different race:p
 
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SafeBet said:
He was first gapped on top of Santa Maria de Criptis. Di Luca attacked. Nibali, Scarponi and some others reacted very quickly. He didn't. He has never looked good on climbs so far. That doesn't mean he'll be weak on the high mountains. He could be the strongest obviously. But that's the reality so far.

maybe you are right. but wiggins is not known for closing the gap that quickly either. He is a diesel. He'll close is slowly but surely. As long as he came back, we can't really draw any a conclusion that he wasn't good in the climb. Who knows he might be in difficulty or hurt (his left leg is taped) or he is just bluffing:D. I don't think he'll announce to the world that his number is better that TDF. Knowing that sky is always rely on scientific number, that for now we should believe him. He has not yet to unleash his so called: "new climbing" skill :D.*I'm waiting patiently*. I guess it's just the number can't calculate about his nerve on wet descending.:p
 
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Jelantik said:
maybe you are right. but wiggins is not known for closing the gap that quickly either. He is a diesel. He'll close is slowly but surely. As long as he came back, we can't really draw any a conclusion that he wasn't good in the climb. Who knows he might be in difficulty or hurt (his left leg is taped) or he is just bluffing:D. I don't think he'll announce to the world that his number is better that TDF. Knowing that sky is always rely on scientific number, that for now we should believe him. He has not yet to unleash his so called: "new climbing" skill :D.*I'm waiting patiently*. I guess it's just the number can't calculate about his nerve on wet descending.:p

your post always make me laugh:D
 
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maxmartin said:
clearly we are watching different race:p

I haven't seen everything. :) If it is true that he's being dropped on the climbs then he has no hope because he is being repeatedly dropped in the descends, not just by Nibali but by the whole peloton. The only question is why he isn't further behind. :)
 
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jamesmasters said:
I haven't seen everything. :) If it is true that he's being dropped on the climbs then he has no hope because he is being repeatedly dropped in the descends, not just by Nibali but by the whole peloton. The only question is why he isn't further behind. :)

He is already more than one minute down from leader. How far down is called further behind in terms Wiggins' calibre?:D

And he is not drop-dead dropped like Hesjedal today. He just shows vulnerability on the climb, sometime he left an unnecessary gap, sometimes his teammates come back to help him close the gap.
 
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maxmartin said:
He is already more than one minute down from leader. How far down is called further behind in terms Wiggins' calibre?:D

And he is not drop-dead dropped like Hesjedal today. He just shows vulnerability on the climb, sometime he left an unnecessary gap, sometimes his teammates come back to help him close the gap.
 
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maxmartin said:
He is already more than one minute down from leader. How far down is called further behind in terms Wiggins' calibre?:D

I'm no wiggins's fan. But ever since he opened his big mouth about his 'new climbing skill', getting time in TT out of nibali, being a TDF leaders and his other bla bla bla.. I really want to see it. I've been watching this guy interview's all year. (and the more i watched it the more I see his head goes so big that I can see him from the other side of the hemisphere) He's been doing a lot of talking. That's why I'm so curious. :cool: Yes, he looks vulnerable in the first week, and as much as I want him to eat his big mouth words, I haven't count him out yet. :D At least not until he is dropped for sure and lost more than 3 minutes in the mountain :p
 
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Jelantik said:
I'm no wiggins's fan. But ever since he opened his big mouth about his 'new climbing skill', getting time in TT out of nibali, being a TDF leaders and his other bla bla bla.. I really want to see it. I've been watching this guy interview's all year. (and the more i watched it the more I see his head goes so big that I can see him from the other side of the hemisphere) He's been doing a lot of talking. That's why I'm so curious. :cool: Yes, he looks vulnerable in the first week, and as much as I want him to eat his big mouth words, I haven't count him out yet. :D At least not until he is dropped for sure and lost more than 3 minutes in the mountain :p

you are funny as always
 
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Jelantik said:
I'm no wiggins's fan. But ever since he opened his big mouth about his 'new climbing skill', getting time in TT out of nibali, being a TDF leaders and his other bla bla bla.. I really want to see it. I've been watching this guy interview's all year. (and the more i watched it the more I see his head goes so big that I can see him from the other side of the hemisphere) He's been doing a lot of talking. That's why I'm so curious. :cool: Yes, he looks vulnerable in the first week, and as much as I want him to eat his big mouth words, I haven't count him out yet. :D At least not until he is dropped for sure and lost more than 3 minutes in the mountain :p

His new magic numbers don't seem to have helped his TT much, on last year's form he would have crushed the field in Stage 8. I'm starting to suspect his climbing will be worse as well. :)

Maybe the time when he is 'drop dead dropped' will come on Tuesday...
 
Jelantik said:
I'm no wiggins's fan. But ever since he opened his big mouth about his 'new climbing skill', getting time in TT out of nibali, being a TDF leaders and his other bla bla bla.. I really want to see it. I've been watching this guy interview's all year. (and the more i watched it the more I see his head goes so big that I can see him from the other side of the hemisphere) He's been doing a lot of talking. That's why I'm so curious. :cool: Yes, he looks vulnerable in the first week, and as much as I want him to eat his big mouth words, I haven't count him out yet. :D At least not until he is dropped for sure and lost more than 3 minutes in the mountain :p

Though it isn't just Wiggins, although it has been rather annoying to hear his ruminations over a possible Giro-Tour double when he hasn't even won the Giro yet (sic!), but the whole Sky entirprise. I mean they talk as if they will be the obvious victors at both Giro and Tour - Giro Wiggins, Tour Froome (Wiggins?) - when they have won just one GT so far and now believe they can dictate rules. They fail to realise, however, that Contador is still the greatest GT rider of his generation and that there are other valid alternatives to their plans, as Nibali is demonstrating right now in the Giro.

Sky should cut down on the PR BS, focus on the races and shut up. Let the legs do the talking and that's enough. There's nothing worse than when you talk a big triumph, but then fail to produce one.