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Women’s RR - World Championships 2024 (September 28)

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MVDP does have a chance but it comes down to tactics. Also, don't know if MVDP will have someone like Vollering who will just chase down any move for him.

I'd like to think most of the favourites in the men's race, race smarter too, and also have the strength to drop riders not contributing in groups. No ones going to give Pog as many tows round a course like Kopecky got or just sit in a group to allow strong riders back in.
 
Do I have this right for the U23 finish? Pieterse-Bradbury-Niedermaier-Holmgren?

Not bad for Ava (as a 19 year old!) in what has been a season largely derailed from injury. One would have expected her sister to do even better on that course but she's on the MTB this weekend.
 
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Well I agree about the 2nd part, it does make it just annoying and dumb to look at. But I don't believe that Vollerings tactics are because of stupidity.
Well obviously she wants to win, but she has no feeling for when to attack or when to gamble. Call it what you want, but it's not selfishness. Riding all her teammates off her wheel doesn't increase her own chances, after all.
 
Do I have this right for the U23 finish? Pieterse-Bradbury-Niedermaier-Holmgren?

Not bad for Ava (as a 19 year old!) in what has been a season largely derailed from injury. One would have expected her sister to do even better on that course but she's on the MTB this weekend.
I was surprised to see Ava Holmgren in that group... haven't seen her at all since the cross season. But apparently that's due to injury?
 
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Hats off to an amazing race, Ghekiere!

Kopecky wins because she dares to lose and keeping the strongest kick at the finish line. Her level of tactics displayed today, Vollering can only dream of. How can the Dutch team end up with just a fifth place ...

As a Belgian I'm happy, of course. But after all the bad luck and heavy injuries, I would've enjoyed a Dygert victory too. Kudos for your persistance, Chloe.
 
I sometimes wonder if the Dutch come into these races with such a strong team that the riders need to prove themselves worthy of being the one they ride for ON THE DAY, meaning they have all these bizarre antics to drop or chase their own teammates to prove themselves strongest but wasting energy in the process. They only ever seem to win these races with absolute brute force like Annemiek and Anna VDB did, or in a sprint, unless it's Vos who is just far more tactically astute than the others. The Belgians by contrast - and the Italians, this is something they're usually pretty good at - make their plan and stick to it, but it seems the Dutch have a standing plan of winging it based on who has the form so they all battle each other as well...
 
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I'd like to think most of the favourites in the men's race, race smarter too, and also have the strength to drop riders not contributing in groups. No ones going to give Pog as many tows round a course like Kopecky got or just sit in a group to allow strong riders back in.
I mean, if remco isn't dropped by pog I definitely see him helping the slovenian just to be beaten at the sprint; if dropped, helping the likes of rogla or even mvpd come back in the flat part like vollering today. When you are that strong (and vollering is that) you're just not used to fine tactics, you just smash the pedals as hard as you can and most of the time it's fine as it is.
 
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I sometimes wonder if the Dutch come into these races with such a strong team that the riders need to prove themselves worthy of being the one they ride for ON THE DAY, meaning they have all these bizarre antics to drop or chase their own teammates to prove themselves strongest but wasting energy in the process. They only ever seem to win these races with absolute brute force like Annemiek and Anna VDB did, or in a sprint, unless it's Vos who is just far more tactically astute than the others. The Belgians by contrast - and the Italians, this is something they're usually pretty good at - make their plan and stick to it, but it seems the Dutch have a standing plan of winging it based on who has the form so they all battle each other as well...
Clear sign of bad leadership imo
 
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Mostly this I feel. Vollering is just way too nervous in finales. Add to that a complete lack of any race-savvy whatsoever and this is what you get.
I don't think it's nerves as such, it's fomo, she puts so much pressure on herself to win, she fears losing it all, so all her moves are too early tactically. Which puts her in worse positions which just spirals in a race like today
 
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Unlike Vollering, Vos is really smart. I can imagine she feels pretty frustrated.

Albeit why ? If they've gone into the race to support Demi, and Vos is smart enough to give Demi the support she needs and knows she needs and this is the best they could do as a result, Why be frustrated you tried your hardest right?

You can only be frustrated if you think actually I'd have done better in that setup, in which case you weren't riding for the team goal were you.

And this might be the heart of the issue in the Dutch team.
 
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Albeit why ? If they've gone into the race to support Demi, and Vos is smart enough to give Demi the support she needs and knows she needs and this is the best they could do as a result, Why be frustrated you tried your hardest right?

You can only be frustrated if you think actually I'd have done better in that setup, in which case you weren't riding for the team goal were you.

And this might be the heart of the issue in the Dutch team.
The team goal should be to win. Solely riding for Vollering to be the only one allowed to win doesn't help with that.
 
The team goal should be to win. Solely riding for Vollering to be the only one allowed to win doesn't help with that.

But that's the problem, a team goal just to win creates this situation where riders on the same team compete with each other, and consequently wreck each other's chances of attaining that goal.

It's a horrible management speak quote, but it's true, you have to fly in formation to be an effective team. As soon as people take it upon themselves to do things slightly out of formation even if they believe the goal theyre aiming at is the same, team cohesion breaks down and it becomes alot harder to do things.
 
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